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Title: ready to cut the shelf need help
Post by: compound_convert on September 23, 2011, 11:30:00 AM
finished up my first bow. its a ipe n hickory backed . i was shooting off hand but im thinking about cutting in a shelf. i have read the other topic on how to cut it , but where ? i am a 3 under shooter im pulling 45-48# @ 30'' the bow is 70'' long and the width at the riser is 1 1/2''. im only thinking about cutting 1/2'' deep. now the question is where would be a good spot. center, above center, below center? how does the location of the shelf make a difference? thank you ahead of time
Title: Re: ready to cut the shelf need help
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on September 23, 2011, 12:14:00 PM
I highly suggest stacked up leather for a rest rather than making any cuts in the riser. Just my .02 cents. 1 1/2"-2" above center is good start. Shoot off your knuckle until the bow feels and shoots good, mark that spot and make that your shelf area.
Title: Re: ready to cut the shelf need help
Post by: compound_convert on September 23, 2011, 01:43:00 PM
thank you pearl drums, i will try the stucked up leather first
Title: Re: ready to cut the shelf need help
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on September 23, 2011, 02:19:00 PM
Its easier to remove or move down the road, plus you wont damage the integrity of the riser. It has the most stress on it.
Title: Re: ready to cut the shelf need help
Post by: soopernate on September 23, 2011, 02:40:00 PM
I like both the leather stack as PEARL DRUMS suggested but also have done as Gordon Ferlitsch once illustrated.  Wrap the area first with serving and then gluing on a split and ground golf tee.  Wrap that handle with leather and you have a great looking, yet removable, shelf.
Title: Re: ready to cut the shelf need help
Post by: Art B on September 23, 2011, 02:41:00 PM
I cut shelves in all my bows. I think Pearly is just scared to try it  :D  .

Bow of that length, it's important to have it's limbs well timed. You're going to know it if'n it ain't! An 1 1/2" above dimensional center of the bow is pretty common for long bows. But for a bow of that length, and to achieve best timing for longer limbs, me personally, I'd go maybe 1 1/4" above center. An use a medium to slightly straight wrist grip........Art
Title: Re: ready to cut the shelf need help
Post by: Art B on September 23, 2011, 02:42:00 PM
I cut shelves in all my bows. I think Pearly is just scared to try it  :D  .

Bow of that length, it's important to have it's limbs well timed. You're going to know it if'n it ain't! An 1 1/2" above dimensional center of the bow is pretty common for long bows. But for a bow of that length, and to achieve best timing for longer limbs, me personally, I'd go maybe 1 1/4" above center. An use a medium to slightly straight wrist grip........Art
Title: Re: ready to cut the shelf need help
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on September 23, 2011, 03:02:00 PM
I aint skeer'ed Artsy! I have had a few bows that moved on me after a bunch of shots and I was able to move my "rest" up or down to get the tiller back on line. So now I always glue stacked up leather on.
Title: Re: ready to cut the shelf need help
Post by: Art B on September 23, 2011, 03:29:00 PM
Yeah, I reckon for someone's first bow, might be a good idea to go the with the leather shelf Pearly.

So here's how I lay mine out for a cut-in shelf. Old saying is, layout your arrow pass for how you intend to grip the bow, or, grip a bow however it's arrow pass was laid out. Once gripped accordingly, timing is automatic. Kinda  made that up, but does sound good don't you think  :dunno:  ..........Art
Title: Re: ready to cut the shelf need help
Post by: compound_convert on September 23, 2011, 07:30:00 PM
thank you every1 will the the stack leather 1st
Title: Re: ready to cut the shelf need help
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 23, 2011, 09:23:00 PM
Geeze who woke up the ole timer from WV? :)
Title: Re: ready to cut the shelf need help
Post by: red hill on September 24, 2011, 12:03:00 AM
Just don't try to sell him an osage stave...
What I meant to say was, I've used antler for a rest a couple of times, seemed to do well. But the last 3 received leather rests that worked real well.  Keenan has an interesting way of adding a rest that I like, too.
Title: Re: ready to cut the shelf need help
Post by: Art B on September 24, 2011, 05:28:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Roy from Pa:
Geeze who woke up the ole timer from WV?  :)  
:knothead:
Title: Re: ready to cut the shelf need help
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 24, 2011, 06:17:00 AM
Morning Son:)
Title: Re: ready to cut the shelf need help
Post by: Art B on September 24, 2011, 06:25:00 AM
:coffee:  Morning Roy
Title: Re: ready to cut the shelf need help
Post by: Osagetree on September 24, 2011, 06:30:00 AM
Morning fellas!  :coffee:  1st day of bow season here!
Title: Re: ready to cut the shelf need help
Post by: Art B on September 24, 2011, 06:35:00 AM
Morning Joe! Another week here yet. How come you're not in the woods?
Title: Re: ready to cut the shelf need help
Post by: Osagetree on September 24, 2011, 06:45:00 AM
Gotta wait till this evening cause of a family event this morning. I am stir crazy at the moment!