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Title: 3 piece build along
Post by: DJP on July 29, 2011, 05:17:00 PM
This is a bow I built for my brother in Oregon. I started by making some rough sketches of how I wanted it using some cut outs from previous builds.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/1.jpg)
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I had a full panel of grey action wood, I made some cuts for my riser and wedge set, I then ground my wedges on my sled first into tapers and then made them into parallel wedges.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/11.jpg)
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Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: DJP on July 29, 2011, 05:19:00 PM
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/16.jpg)
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Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: DJP on July 29, 2011, 05:23:00 PM
I then took some action boo flooring and ripped off the tongue and groove and them ripped them down to 1 ¾" wide on the table saw.
 (http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/18.jpg)
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Next I resawed some a-boo and action wood rough parallels on my band saw.

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Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: DJP on July 29, 2011, 05:31:00 PM
The next step was to come up with a laminated veneer to go on the belly and back of the limb. I started with action wood split with a-boo and maple.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/113.jpg)
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Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: DJP on July 29, 2011, 05:33:00 PM
After the glue was cured I ran it through my drum sander and resawed it in to 5 lams, I ran one practice down to see how thin I could make them, I brought them down to .015"
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/119.jpg)
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Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: DJP on July 29, 2011, 05:36:00 PM
I then received some materials to start the I beam of the riser.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/125.jpg)
I started with a 2"x2"x20" block and cut it in half length wise and ran I through my drum sander. I also ran my phenolic through the drum sander.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/127.jpg)
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Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: DJP on July 29, 2011, 05:39:00 PM
I cleaned all the parts with compressed air and glued them together. When cured I re ran it through the sander.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/130.jpg)
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Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: DJP on July 29, 2011, 05:41:00 PM
The next step was to make the I beam into a double radius curve.
I ran a test piece of boo to set the radius on my band saw swing jig.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/137.jpg)
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Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: DJP on July 29, 2011, 05:46:00 PM
Once cut I sand with a 40 grit block by hand. I then glued red phenolic and I think 4 parallels of .125" action wood and black phenolic to the back of the riser and glued it.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/138.jpg)
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When it was cured it cleaned it up on the drum sander and added another 5 .125" parallels to the back and glued it up, when it cured I ran it again through the drum sander.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/141.jpg)
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Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: DJP on July 29, 2011, 05:50:00 PM
I then was ready to cut the second radius on the belly side of the riser.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/145.jpg)
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After cutting it on the swing jig I hand sanded again and added one more strip of red phenolic and another stack of .100" parallels, the .125" would not make the tighter radius.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/149.jpg)
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Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: T Folts on July 29, 2011, 05:52:00 PM
Looking good.
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: DJP on July 29, 2011, 05:54:00 PM
I did not get any pictures of grinding the lams but I used the same drum sander with my dedicated 60 grit lamination sand paper. The stack up from belly to back goes. Clear glass, veneer, .002" per inch a-boo taper, action wood wedge, action wood parallel, veneer and clear glass. I used compressed air only to clean the lams.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/152.jpg)
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Now I am a bit spoiled to have a friend with a Bridgeport mill for my drilling tapping and riser limb pad machining.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/155.jpg)
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Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: DJP on July 29, 2011, 05:58:00 PM
The next step was to cut and grind some thin wood and phenolic to laminate together for the limb tips.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/158.jpg)
I glued them all together with plastic rap on the limb surface to get the correct limb radius. Once they are cured I taper them on the spindle sander.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/159.jpg)
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I then measure where the string groove is and prepare the limb glass before I smooth on the tip material for a cold cure.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/162.jpg)
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Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: DJP on July 29, 2011, 06:01:00 PM
Next I lay out the limb shape and scribe it with a carbide scriber and cut it to shape on the band saw, I put on an old glass only blade for this. I cut very close to the scribed line.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/164.jpg)
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I then sand to the line on the 6"X89" Jet.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/166.jpg)
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Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: DJP on July 29, 2011, 06:03:00 PM
I made a simple guide for my string grooves to use with a chainsaw file, I was very happy with the results.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/168.jpg)
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I then relieve the file cut with a die grinder and 1" sanding drum.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/171.jpg)
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Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: DJP on July 29, 2011, 06:06:00 PM
Now it is time to shape the riser, I cut out the sight window with the band saw leaving the shelf high and staying away from the area where I would blend into the top limb.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/173.jpg)
I used a ½" router bit in the drill press to flatten out the riser and bring the shelf down, this riser is cut to center.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/174.jpg)
I then used a 1/2" ball nose carbide burr to put a ¼" radius on the inside of the shelf/sight window.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/175.jpg)
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/176.jpg)
I then used a 40 grit 2" diameter sleeve on the spindle sander to shape the top of the sight window.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/177.jpg)
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: SEMO_HUNTER on July 29, 2011, 06:08:00 PM
I would give my left cahoney for a shop full of equipment like that! Man, I'm so envious of you.......I know it's a sin to covet another man's possessions, but I just can't help it.   :D  

I like those limb veneers, they look pretty cool.
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: DJP on July 29, 2011, 06:10:00 PM
I used a wood jig with the spindle sander with a 3" drum to hold a consistent angle on the limbs.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/178.jpg)
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/179.jpg)
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/180.jpg)
I mounted the limbs on the riser and scribed the phenolic, and started to shape the riser using the spindle sander and rasps.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/181.jpg)
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Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: DJP on July 29, 2011, 06:12:00 PM
My wife snapped a picture of me tillering the limbs and took another picture of me pulling the bow on the tiller tree.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/186.jpg)
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/187.jpg)
Here it is in the paint booth.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/188.jpg)
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: DJP on July 29, 2011, 06:15:00 PM
The finished bow specifications are. 62" 50# @ 30.5"
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/singlebevel/build%20along/189.jpg)
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Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: jess stuart on July 29, 2011, 06:56:00 PM
Excellent job, absolutely stunning.
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: Ranger44 on July 29, 2011, 08:06:00 PM
Holy cow!  If I had known that it was so easy I would have started making a bow like that instead of the ridiculously difficult board bows that I have attempted.  :)   I'm tired just after looking at all that work.

What an excellent pictorial and narrative.  Thanks for sharing that.  I love your shop and tools just like SEMO said.

I was going to ask you to adopt me until you showed the picture of yourself.  I'm a lot closer to to being old enough to be your father.  For some reason I expected an older fellow to be doing this.

Thanks again and great job!
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: kennym on July 29, 2011, 08:47:00 PM
Super job Dan!!  :clapper:    :clapper:
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: Jeff Smith on July 29, 2011, 09:00:00 PM
Fantastic  :notworthy:
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: bjansen on July 29, 2011, 09:26:00 PM
excellent! thanks for taking the time to post such a great build along
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: BenBow on July 29, 2011, 09:31:00 PM
Sweet!
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: DEATHMASTER on July 29, 2011, 09:42:00 PM
VERY nice job.
One of the best follow alongs.
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: red hill on July 30, 2011, 12:30:00 PM
Beautiful bow and craftsmanship, Dan.
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: johnis on August 01, 2011, 04:46:00 AM
Wow thats alot of work and a beautiful bow    :clapper:
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: matts2 on August 01, 2011, 09:47:00 AM
That is just gorgeous. Great build
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: Greg Szalewski on August 01, 2011, 01:31:00 PM
That is incredable. Wow, what a nice looking bow. Thanks for taking all the time to post all of the steps in detail. The shop is nice too.
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: DJP on August 01, 2011, 06:23:00 PM
Thanks everyone for the kind comments, my "shop" is just my basement.
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: longrifle on August 07, 2011, 09:59:00 PM
DJP that bow and build along is fantastic,it gave me some good ideas for a bow this winter.  Thank you.
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: DBinAlamo on September 10, 2011, 09:36:00 PM
Dan you are a true craftsman, thanks for taking the time to post.
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: Wingless Arrow on September 10, 2011, 10:23:00 PM
wow, im blown away! that bow is beautiful! and the build along was so detailed with plenty of pics. thanks alot. i might have to try that one day, way, way down the road of course.
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: Over&Under on September 11, 2011, 01:01:00 PM
Am always amazed at the talent on this site...This is not exception!  Excellent work, and what a beautiful result!!!

Some of the details in the limbs and riser make that bow pop!  Wow!!!!
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: fish n chicks on September 11, 2011, 10:10:00 PM
WOW. What more does one need to say? Truly awesome.
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: chris fleming on September 12, 2011, 11:08:00 AM
That is cool. I love your band saw guide.
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: Buemaker on September 13, 2011, 02:43:00 PM
A very nice bow and one of the best buildalongs I have seen.  Bue--.
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: Paul Newton on September 13, 2011, 08:37:00 PM
Nice bow and process. Thanks for the build-a-long.
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: Shakes.602 on September 14, 2011, 09:24:00 AM
WOW!!  :thumbsup:   "Dear Santa.."  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: SportHunter on September 14, 2011, 12:14:00 PM
Exceptional job on the bow.
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: 2treks on September 16, 2011, 11:13:00 AM
Dan, That is a pretty great job you did on that bow and the build-a-long. Lots of good pictures and tips and tricks. Nice job.
I have to ask, what are the long "lathe" looking things along your basement wall?  I am always curious.

Chuck
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: coaster500 on September 16, 2011, 11:27:00 AM
Wow another great talent !!!!

Great job
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: IdahoCurt on September 17, 2011, 06:08:00 PM
Awesome,you are a man with skills! your brother is very lucky.
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: tawmio on October 03, 2011, 02:21:00 PM
very talented. u got some awesome ideas to speed up the process, again very nice work.
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: last arrow on October 03, 2011, 03:45:00 PM
A lot of good information.  Thanks for posting.

Go Tigers
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: JJB on October 08, 2011, 10:09:00 PM
Beautiful work and bow.  Thanks for all the photos and info, very nice shop also.
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: Sixby on October 09, 2011, 04:34:00 PM
Not too shabby. Keep up the great work. God bless you, Steve
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: Margly on October 11, 2011, 06:13:00 PM
Just great    :clapper:
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: DJP on February 16, 2013, 08:26:00 PM
2 The Top
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: timbermoose on February 16, 2013, 09:42:00 PM
Absolutely stunning. good job.
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: stringstretcher on February 17, 2013, 06:16:00 AM
I have looked at this a lot, and for the life of me there is one thing that I can not understand.  One the band saw, you have a piece of wood with what looks like a 6" diameter piece of pvc on it, and I see where you are sawing laminates with it.  How do you keep it running in a straight line?  Or am I missing something?
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: michbowhunter on February 17, 2013, 09:25:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by stringstretcher:
I have looked at this a lot, and for the life of me there is one thing that I can not understand.  One the band saw, you have a piece of wood with what looks like a 6" diameter piece of pvc on it, and I see where you are sawing laminates with it.  How do you keep it running in a straight line?  Or am I missing something?
The PVC radius allows him to cut lams or veneers off of a board that is nor perfectly parallel with the fence.  Kreg makes a similar fence, but Dans does the same thing for a lot less $$.

Great job Dan...and awesome bow!
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: Sharpend60 on February 17, 2013, 09:37:00 AM
Nice build along.
I really like the riser!
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: LC on February 17, 2013, 10:21:00 AM
Just one word keeps coming to thought. WOW! Great bow, great build along and great "basement"!
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: Sockrsblur on February 17, 2013, 12:08:00 PM
Great job. Thanks for taking all those photos, I really enjoyed them!
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: John Scifres on February 17, 2013, 12:15:00 PM
This is a seriously cool bow! Awesome job! Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: BO-R on February 17, 2013, 01:52:00 PM
Great job,impressive setup.
Question on the bandsaw table radius cut setup..
do you only swing the jig or does the whole table need to swing??
VJ.
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: DJP on February 17, 2013, 05:16:00 PM
BO-R...the toggle clamps are screwed to a block of mdf and that is screwed to the plywood, all of that swings on a pivot that is not shown in the picture.
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: Jim Rocole on February 18, 2013, 09:46:00 AM
great build along. I learn something new everytime i follow one of these. great shop. I wish mine was that clean.
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: Lexbow59 on February 24, 2013, 10:56:00 AM
Awesome!!! Great choice of materials!!!    :clapper:
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: tracker12 on February 25, 2013, 09:18:00 AM
I am soooo jealous of artistic guys.  Great job!
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: DEATHMASTER on February 26, 2013, 06:54:00 PM
Nothing more I can say.
TTT
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: Chad Thompson on March 08, 2013, 06:44:00 PM
That is an awsome bow!! Where did you get that slab of actin wood?
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: BassBow on September 25, 2013, 09:48:00 PM
This was inspiring. TTT
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: DJP on September 21, 2014, 04:48:00 PM
Thinking of doing another build along with a one piece design...anyone interested in seeing it?
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: Trux Turning on September 21, 2014, 05:36:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by DJP:
Thinking of doing another build along with a one piece design...anyone interested in seeing it?
Count me in... Looking forward to another one.
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: MoeM on September 21, 2014, 05:55:00 PM
Always interested in seeing how other do!
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: choochoou on September 22, 2014, 04:45:00 PM
Im also curious about the band saw with the round pic jig .
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: Brett Leinmiller on September 22, 2014, 11:40:00 PM
A superb bow and buildalong. Thank you.

I've always been intrigued by and enjoyed designing and using jigs. I haven't started building bows yet but I'd like to see a thread here on jigs and forms used by different members.
Title: Re: 3 piece build along
Post by: MB_Sweden on September 23, 2014, 07:36:00 AM
Bring it on  :)