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Title: how's the tiller so far? **Updated! - She's done! Pics included:)
Post by: k-hat on May 23, 2011, 01:11:00 PM
this is a kid's bow, 53"ttt, 52"n2n, bendy handle, same width (1.25") with thickness taper out to midlimb, then width tapers to 1/2 inch nocks and uniform thickness.  Tips are even, but the bend isn't exactly the same as you can see from the grid.  Am I being too picky?  Wanna take her out to 26 inches, at 22 now with a 6" brace.

  (http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd374/k-hat/Photo05231152.jpg)

Thanks boys!


Ok, done some work on her and here she is.  Took Pearly's advice and put a 1" block up to get a better bend in the handle.     :thumbsup:    Looking better?

 (http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd374/k-hat/Photo05231514.jpg)
Title: Re: how's the tiller so far? **Updated! - She's done! Pics included:)
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on May 23, 2011, 01:44:00 PM
You gotta hinge startered on the right limb.
Title: Re: how's the tiller so far? **Updated! - She's done! Pics included:)
Post by: matts2 on May 23, 2011, 01:45:00 PM
Might be a slight hinge on the outer third on the right side.  Pretty good tho.
Title: Re: how's the tiller so far? **Updated! - She's done! Pics included:)
Post by: k-hat on May 23, 2011, 01:46:00 PM
that's what i was suspicious of, wasn't sure if my eyes were playin tricks.  Right around where the limb intersects the six inch line, right?
Title: Re: how's the tiller so far? **Updated! - She's done! Pics included:)
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on May 23, 2011, 01:59:00 PM
The fade area on the right is flat, try scraping 15-20 passes there. Dont pay attention to those dots or grid.
Title: Re: how's the tiller so far? **Updated! - She's done! Pics included:)
Post by: k-hat on May 23, 2011, 02:10:00 PM
thanks PD, i can see that now, guess the grid can be a help and a hinder!  Workd round the hinge already, i'll do that flat spot soon as i take my girly to the dentist:)
Title: Re: how's the tiller so far? **Updated! - She's done! Pics included:)
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on May 23, 2011, 02:21:00 PM
Grids and dots have a tendancy to draw your attention away from the wood itself. If that handle is designed to work, I would hit that area a little as well. Sit the bow up on a 1" block rather than a 4" block. You will see a change right away. The handle needs to flex in order for a full arc tiller to work and not fret on the belly.
Title: Re: how's the tiller so far? **Updated! - She's done! Pics included:)
Post by: k-hat on May 23, 2011, 04:40:00 PM
Updated the pics to show the progress so far, looking better, bout ready to go another inch or two i think:)
Title: Re: how's the tiller so far? **Updated! - She's done! Pics included:)
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on May 23, 2011, 05:24:00 PM
Dang close now. I would scrape mid limb on the right 10-12 strokes. It looks just a pinch flat right there. After that I would fire 15-20 arrows through her to be sure it "sticks". Dont draw the bow farther than your youth will. I would say 24-25" is plenty for that short of a bow. This is just my .02 cents, others may have varying opinions. Is it oak?
Title: Re: how's the tiller so far? **Updated! - She's done! Pics included:)
Post by: k-hat on May 23, 2011, 05:52:00 PM
Yes sir, it's red oak for my son.  He has about a 25" draw, and I wanted an extra inch in for security.  I'll scrape some more tonite and update!  Thanks for the help!!!
Title: Re: how's the tiller so far? **Updated! - She's done! Pics included:)
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on May 23, 2011, 05:57:00 PM
For what its worth, I look at one limb at a time and pretend its a fishing pole bending. Thats the even bend your eyes need to see. I try not to look at the whole bow very often. Your dang close man!
Title: Re: how's the tiller so far? **Updated! - She's done! Pics included:)
Post by: k-hat on May 26, 2011, 11:03:00 PM
K boys and girls, here it is all done but the waxn.  Thanks so much for all the great advice and encouragement.  Tradgangers are awesome   :thumbsup:  

Stats:  53" ttt, 52" ntn, 15#@25".  Made based on "the perfect [bendy] bow" in TBB1.  I was going for a more primitive look, hence the art sinew and tie-on nocks.  I burnished it today and will wax it later on after she's good and broken in.   This one is the second for my son, and he's already in love, put a few arras thru already and he says it feels good and i ain't arguin!

Here are the pics, sorry the quality aint so great:

Side profile unbraced, straightens out real nice-like.  heated in about 2" of reflex to start, which i figured would tiller out to give a flat profile.  Perty close!!
(http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd374/k-hat/Photo05262104.jpg)

(http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd374/k-hat/Photo05262126_1.jpg)

(http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd374/k-hat/Photo05262126.jpg)

ignore the leftover handle lace.  I didn't wanna cut it off just yet so i could rewrap it later.
(http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd374/k-hat/Photo05262114.jpg)

(http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd374/k-hat/Photo05262150.jpg)

And the money pic.  I sure was hopin he didn't let'r slip and put an arra in the tv!!
(http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd374/k-hat/Photo05262117.jpg)

Thanks again!!  I welcome any critique, long as it's nice    ;)
Title: Re: how's the tiller so far? **Updated! - She's done! Pics included:)
Post by: don s on May 26, 2011, 11:30:00 PM
he has better form than me. very nice bow. good job. don
Title: Re: how's the tiller so far? **Updated! - She's done! Pics included:)
Post by: k-hat on May 26, 2011, 11:59:00 PM
Thanks Don, he's kind of a natural.  When we got his first one made it went something like this:  i showed him "now here's how you draw it" and he said "oh, like this"    :archer2:   and i said "well there ya go!"  I can't w8 to make myself a shorty like this one, just a touch heavier though   ;)