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Title: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on April 27, 2011, 08:29:00 PM

So here I go on my fist build along

1) Here are the brackets for my press I made myself

All welded and drilled

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/Copy2ofP1110052.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/Copy2ofP1110050.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/Copy2ofP1110051.jpg

2) I put the brackets aside and worked on my heat box

Here is my heat box first

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/Copy3ofP1110053.jpg

I then put some weather stripping where the lid sits

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/Copy2ofP1110054.jpg

I then cocked the inside with some white cocking

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/Copy2ofP1110058.jpg

Great build along! Please resize pics to 600 pixels or less

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on April 27, 2011, 08:38:00 PM

The I started to install electrical

First I installed two gang boxes

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/Copy2ofP1110056.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/Copy2ofP1110055.jpg

Then I started wiring from one to another

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/Copy2ofP1110057.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/Copy2ofP1110061.jpg

Then I installed a plug end on my power cord that lead out of my heat box

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/Copy2ofP1110060.jpg

Then I attached that cord ran the cord out of the box

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/Copy2ofP1110059.jpg

Here is my finished wiring job

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/CopyofP1110062.jpg

Next I started to line my box with aluminum foil and tape

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110063.jpg

SHOULD I VENT MY HEAT BOX???? ANY TIPS AND SUGGESTION WOULD BE GREAT

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on April 27, 2011, 09:05:00 PM

Here is my foil job almost complete

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110072.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110071.jpg

Now here I go on my riser

I all ready glued it up but here it is before I plan it down to dimensions

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110065.jpg

It made out of 2 pieces dark walnut and a strip of cherry, some lighter walnut, another strip of cherry, and two more pieces dark walnut

And here is it after planned out

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110068.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110070.jpg

I'm going to make it 19'' riser but I left an inch on either side for now

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110069.jpg

Can anybody help me with making my riser like this?

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/Riser6.jpg

I'd like to do that with 2 strips of cherry

Will put more photos up tommorow might start making my press or work on my riser.

Once again any tips, pointers, suggestions, anything will be very helpful for me. Thanks

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: Greg Szalewski on April 27, 2011, 09:18:00 PM

I can see this is going to be a good one. I can see lots of craftsmanship already. No, you don't have to vent the heat box, in fact I wouldn't. As for the riser cuts I have never done that, but think some sort of swing jig on the band saw would do that. KennyM does those all the time. I kind of want to know myself. Good luck

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: JJB on April 27, 2011, 09:23:00 PM

I agree, lot's of detail already which is very helpful. I'd also like to learn how to make some nice accent stripes like that.
-Jay

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on April 27, 2011, 09:34:00 PM

Thanks for the complements, I'm really excited to see the finished product. So glad my teacher is letting me make one in wood shop.

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: bjansen on April 27, 2011, 09:41:00 PM

Excellent and I am looking forward to the rest of the build.

A swing jib will help you with those cuts, but you can also do it by hand fitting the pieces together. It will take some fine tuning and more time, but I have done several by hand it it works fine. Cut and sand your first arc piece, then trace it on, cut and sand until it fits perfectly with the lamination spacers in between the two pieces.

One other note, welding on the large single nut on the other side of your form brackets will help (as you wont have to mess with a wrench during the glue up)

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on April 27, 2011, 11:48:00 PM

Here are some drawings I did for my riser I think I'll cut the first curve out tomorrow.

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110081.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110077.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110079.jpg

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: monterey on April 28, 2011, 12:06:00 AM

Now, I may be completely off base with this suggestion, and if I am, hopefully some of the more experienced members will set me straight.

I made a form once with the double bolts on one half of the form and a single bolt on the other half like your brackets indicate. That form was just not solid. The half with the single bolt allowed the two form halves to shift quite a little bit. I took one bow off it but when the hose was inflating, the two halves were squirming around. The form was for a flat long bow so there was no limb shape to help with alignment.

Still have that form and will use it again but do intend to put an additional bolts in the brackets.

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: ozzyshane on April 28, 2011, 06:41:00 AM

Carnt wait for more Thanks Shane

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: Don Armstrong on April 28, 2011, 08:42:00 AM

The only thing I would be worried about are the plastic boxes and lights. If you use 150 or 200 watt bulbs, the plastic might melt. I like to use metal boxes and porcelean keyless lights. I'm a electrician so I worry about those things. I put my boxes on the outside of my heat box with only the light fixture in the box. Don

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on April 28, 2011, 10:21:00 AM

hmm i never thought of that well i'll see how thing go first try i think. I'm using 200 watt bulbs so might have a problem.

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: matts2 on April 28, 2011, 10:49:00 AM

You plastic fixtures WILL melt, they did on my box using 150w bulbs. They smoke an char and eventually the bulb starts to fall out. Replace those with porcelain ones right away. I thought I was going to burn my shop down with all the smoke rolling out. Besides that, looks awesome. Glad I am not the only one that wires stuff up with extension cord.

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: kennym on April 28, 2011, 09:14:00 PM

My quickie swing jig, works well! :thumbsup:

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/kennym/001-19.jpg)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/kennym/002-18.jpg)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/kennym/003-14.jpg)

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on April 28, 2011, 09:16:00 PM

Today i got started on my riser firt i taped my stencil on.

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110089.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110088.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110087.jpg

then i cut it out

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110090.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110092.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110091.jpg

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on April 28, 2011, 09:17:00 PM

next i sanded it

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110093.jpg

next i worked on my cherry strips that will go between

i made a jig and planned them down

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110094.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110096.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110095.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110097.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110098.jpg

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on April 28, 2011, 09:22:00 PM

Then i dry clamped it

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110100.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110101.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110099.jpg

tomorow i will glue it and then cut my second curve

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110103.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110102.jpg

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on April 28, 2011, 09:23:00 PM

do you think i should cut both curve and glue together or one then the other?

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on April 28, 2011, 09:26:00 PM

Thanks Kenny, but I all ready cut it out and I think it worked pretty good. By the way Kenny I'm the guy thats been emailing you about that order, not sure if you knew.

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on April 28, 2011, 09:45:00 PM

Also Thanks Don Armstrong and Matts2 I picked up some metal gang boxes will install them tomorrow.

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110108.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110109.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110111.jpg

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on April 29, 2011, 11:01:00 AM

Before i glue my riser i want to make shure i have th right type of glue. Should i use an expanding glue? wood glue? expoxy? would tightbond work. what typr of glue should i use on the curved cuts in my riser with the strips of cherry?

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: Trux Turning on April 29, 2011, 12:40:00 PM

I would use smooth-on for the entire riser glue up.No worries that way- looking good!!

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: IdahoCurt on April 29, 2011, 10:43:00 PM

Awesome thread,great pictures!

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on April 30, 2011, 12:08:00 AM

Thanks didn't get much done today other than switching my gang boxes to metal and foiling by the rest of my heat box, I didn't have my camera but I will on Monday. Other than that just waiting on my material.

Also, if anyone has anything they would like to share to help me out, tips, answers to my questions, that would be great, can never stop learning things from experienced bow makers.

I hope to get going on the rest of my bow very soon.

heres my to do list

1) press
2) riser glue / cut / glue
3) limbs
4) shap riser
5) glue limbs
6) shape limbs
7) riser incerts
and so on and so on

if anyone has tip or pointers of any of these or would like to share how they do them please do!!

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on May 04, 2011, 12:02:00 AM

Today I made glued my form meterial together and I cut a pressure strip.

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110112-1.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110113-1.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110114-1.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110118-1.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110117-1.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110116-1.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110115-1.jpg

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on May 06, 2011, 03:35:00 PM

Yeaster day i finised by press here are some pics, any feedback or changes i should make would be great. hope its good enough to work for me.

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110125.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110124.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110129.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110130.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110146.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110143.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110144.jpg

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on May 06, 2011, 03:44:00 PM

next i need to install my formica strip but i need to get one first. I just need to pick my meterial up and I'll gule up my riser and start to shape it.

2) riser glue / cut / glue
3) limbs
4) shap riser
5) glue limbs
6) shape limbs
7) riser incerts
and so on and so on

if anyone has tip or pointers of any of these or would like to share how they do them please do!!

any other hits or secrets that could help me would be great!!!

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: Trux Turning on May 06, 2011, 07:29:00 PM

Your form looks good. I would put a bunch of wood screws in it so the glue doesn't let go when it gets hot in the oven.

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on May 06, 2011, 08:50:00 PM

okay I'll do that, should i pree drill so it dosn't crack or can i just go ahead

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: Trux Turning on May 06, 2011, 09:38:00 PM

It's not a bad idea to pre drill the ones close to the surface, the rest you won't need to worry about splits/cracks.

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on May 17, 2011, 01:16:00 AM

more on my build coming soon had a slight set back while my meterial arrives

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: kennym on May 17, 2011, 06:46:00 AM

Hey Nick, thought it would have been there, want me to track it?

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on May 17, 2011, 07:54:00 PM

Hey Kenny no i got it i was talking about my press meterial. I sent the check a long time ago have you got it yet?

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: Philthy on May 17, 2011, 10:27:00 PM

On my heat boxes whether for drying or curing I put the lights at the bottom with spacers to keep everything off of them. I figured the heat would rise off of the lights and circulate the air a bit for a more even temp.It may or may not have helped though.

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: Dawnpatrol on May 19, 2011, 12:49:00 AM

Sweet build along. Thanks or posting!

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on June 13, 2011, 03:38:00 AM

And here we go again i changed my riser a little bit i put 3 strips of cherry and 1 walnut in the curve instead and shaped it out alot..

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on June 13, 2011, 03:40:00 AM

i will be glueing up my arms pretty soon i tryed my oven out for the first time today and looks good got it to a steady 175. also i put some formica on my press and put my air hose together will get you some pics on the soon but here is some pic on my almost finished riser

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on June 13, 2011, 03:46:00 AM

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110270.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110269.jpg http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110268.jpg http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110267.jpg http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110266.jpg http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110265.jpg http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110262.jpg http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110261.jpg

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on June 13, 2011, 03:47:00 AM

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110260.jpg http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110259.jpg http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110257.jpg

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on June 13, 2011, 03:48:00 AM

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110256.jpg http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110255.jpg http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110254.jpg http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110253.jpg http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110252.jpg http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110251.jpg http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110272.jpg http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110271.jpg

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on June 13, 2011, 03:50:00 AM

yup there it is any suggestion, i've sanded and taken it down a bit more now. ill get some newer ones up quick. im very happy with it considering its my first but there are a could glue gaps that i wish were not there but overall im pleased how it turned out

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: John Lipinski on June 13, 2011, 10:59:00 AM

now that's a pretty one. good job on the riser so far, it looks great

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on June 13, 2011, 09:22:00 PM

Today i glued my first limb up it looks pretty good didn't shift and my heat box is sitting a 180 degrees so i just have to wait now.... ill have more pics when the first one comes out

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on June 13, 2011, 09:26:00 PM

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110273.jpg
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NO PICS OVER 640 PIXELS

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on June 13, 2011, 09:26:00 PM

there we have it my first glue up...... any suggestions

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: ckanous on June 14, 2011, 06:44:00 AM

I'm watching this one closely. I got my form and box made and just need to get my materials from Kenny and I'll be spreading glue!! Looks good so far.

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on June 16, 2011, 02:14:00 AM

i glued my limbs up.

started with putting some paper on the table
http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110335.jpg

the linned my form with seran wrap

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110336.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110334.jpg

after that i turned my heat box on and started to warm up my limbs for about 25 min

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110326.jpg

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on June 16, 2011, 02:15:00 AM

while i waited i checked my hose, tighted the end and made sure there was no leaks. i also put a center line on my fiberglass

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110333.jpg http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110330.jpg http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110332.jpg http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110329.jpg http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110328.jpg

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on June 16, 2011, 02:17:00 AM

then i put my glue in the oven

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110324.jpg

while my glue warmed up for about 10 min i clean my limbs and fierglass

i do this with a dremmal and a stiff brush

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110325.jpg

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on June 16, 2011, 02:20:00 AM

next i mexed my glue

i used little plastic cup with a 1 to 1 ratio and i just eye ball the amount

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110321.jpg

also i drilled my hole for my riser inserts and with my left over smooth on i was planning on glueing them in

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110323.jpg http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110322.jpg

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on June 16, 2011, 02:22:00 AM

after i installed them in my riser i put it infront of some lights to cure http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110320.jpg

here is what my bow looks like so far not bolted in and the limbs aren't cut out yet

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/NRootski/P1110319.jpg

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: ckanous on June 16, 2011, 06:03:00 AM

Your getting closer, this thing will be hunt ready before long!

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on June 16, 2011, 02:12:00 PM

NRudder, Please resize your pics to 640 or less. You can do this in photo bucket. I have edited your post 2 times. You can find a a tutorial in the trad gang and computers page.

Thank Stiks

Great build along by the way.

Title: Re: My first build along TAKE DOWN RECURVE (with photos)
Post by: NRudder on June 17, 2011, 02:05:00 AM

okay sorry

Trad Gang

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