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Title: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 24, 2011, 05:41:00 PM
I found the motherlode of 6" straight as an arrow Shag bark. I found this while hauling out the hickory. I cut a pole and brought it out. What is it? Its from the Central Michigan area.  (http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m518/chrislovesjean/000_0168.jpg?t=1303680963)
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 24, 2011, 06:02:00 PM
That is a Mongolian Tulip Tree.
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: Art B on April 24, 2011, 06:08:00 PM
What Roy said...........Art
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: kennym on April 24, 2011, 06:15:00 PM
The one on left is hickory, the other could be a tulip...
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 24, 2011, 07:36:00 PM
Is it worth a bow? Oops, I forgot to mention its the chunk on the right. The one on the left is certainly hickory, I found all I will ever need/want.
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 24, 2011, 08:24:00 PM
Sure is bow worthy, Mongolian Tulip wood is excellent bow wood.
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: DVSHUNTER on April 24, 2011, 08:36:00 PM
mongolian tulip on the right
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: stickhunter on April 24, 2011, 08:56:00 PM
one on the Left for sure hickory but the one on the right looks like a tulip tree to me, probably mongolian. It'll Make a great bow.
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: SEMO_HUNTER on April 24, 2011, 11:08:00 PM
I'm glad you all identified that because I've got a whole slew of them around here along the river. Is it fairly easy to work like Osage or is it challenging to work with? Sapwood on or off?
I'm curious cause I'm going to start looking for other woods to build some bows for myself out of sometime in the future.

I actually always thought that was Buckeye? Which isn't a good hardwood in my opinion, but I'm glad you all made the correct ID on it.
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 25, 2011, 07:06:00 AM
Thats good news. I have a huge amount of both hickory and tulip to gather up then. Thanks for the good info guys. Chris I have to find other woods because my area is void of osage. I can get any kind of whitewood I want in unlimited qtys. Im peeling and sealing both staves. I will let you know how the tulip works out.
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 25, 2011, 07:11:00 AM
:)  Atta Boy...
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: SEMO_HUNTER on April 25, 2011, 09:10:00 AM
Thanks Pearl, let me know how the tulip works out cause I gotta ton of that stuff around here.
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 25, 2011, 06:53:00 PM
I just split and peeled 4 very nice knot free staves. The bark and sapwood came off in a flash and the log split very easily. Now the waiting............
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: SEMO_HUNTER on April 25, 2011, 07:01:00 PM
Pics? I wanna see what the inside of that stuff looks like. I know I've got a crap load of it down here.
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 25, 2011, 07:13:00 PM
I just split and peeled 4 very nice knot free staves. The bark and sapwood came off in a flash and the log split very easily. Now the waiting............

And you are sending Roy how many?
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 25, 2011, 07:19:00 PM
ZERO old man!...............not now anyways. I will wait until they dry down more so shipping is cheaper!
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 25, 2011, 07:27:00 PM
I'll pay the shipping. Send me some of that Mongolian Gold........

That's the best there is.
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 25, 2011, 07:36:00 PM
You meant Magnoila Tulip right? I cant find find Mongolian Tulip anywhere on the net? Quit whining about my stave stash you sissy pants 3 under shooter from SW PA, you know your going to get a stave already!
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: SEMO_HUNTER on April 25, 2011, 08:36:00 PM
No Mongolian Tulip? What the heck is it then?
I'm lost.........course that ain't nothin' new.   :smileystooges:
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: rover brewer on April 25, 2011, 09:10:00 PM
it looke and sounds like hackberry.
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: Shakes.602 on April 25, 2011, 09:22:00 PM
Looks like Locust to me.
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: Pat B on April 26, 2011, 12:27:00 AM
My first thought was hackberry(aka sugarberry). Makes great bows! Never heard of Mongolian(magnolia) tulip.
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 26, 2011, 06:24:00 AM
After scouring pictures I believe it to be Hackberry as well. The Tulip bark is too smooth to match up. Hackberry seems to look almost the same. We have no leaves yet so I can only use the bark to identify it. I guess I have a large collection of Hackberry staves now! Either way Im a happy guy!
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 26, 2011, 06:43:00 AM
LOL, I made it up Pearl:)
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 26, 2011, 07:17:00 AM
You crusty ol' man! After reading and article in PA about the "Hackberry Hammer" I have been wanting to build a Hackberry bow, so Im happy! I have nice American Elm coming my way in week or so. Thats good too!
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: 2treks on April 26, 2011, 08:27:00 AM
That one got rode for a good little bit didn't it Roy, The others piling on helped a great deal.
Good stuff.
I think Hackberry also Chris. have fun with it.
Chuck
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 26, 2011, 08:55:00 AM
Well Chuck, I sort of sent pm's to a few guys to join in:)
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 26, 2011, 09:04:00 AM
Just think .....I have a semi driving friend of mine bring a LOAD of the straightest Indiana osage you ever seen right to my house in the next week or so. Sure will be nice having that huge pile to work with hey Roybert?
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: SEMO_HUNTER on April 26, 2011, 10:11:00 AM
Well, that's still good news then Pearl cause I really do have lots of those around here. I won't hesitate to cut one now and try my hand at a bow from it.

I honestly didn't know at first, but Roy sent me a PM later on to let me in on it.
So I got poked right there along with ya.   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: fish n chicks on April 26, 2011, 11:01:00 AM
What an awesome thread! lmao!
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: DVSHUNTER on April 26, 2011, 11:35:00 AM
haha mongolian tulip... Who wood believe such a thing?  Could have said it was western northern southern sugerbeen. All in good fun.
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 26, 2011, 12:03:00 PM
Ya it was fun for a while:) LOL, sorry Pearly Boy..
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: okie64 on April 26, 2011, 03:54:00 PM
This is the first time I've read this thread and I have to admit I almost lost interest on the first page because I had never heard of mongolian tulip. Glad I kept on reading. Thats Funny!!!
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: Art B on April 26, 2011, 04:47:00 PM
Sorry Pearly, Roy said he'd twist my string if'n I didn't go along. Dang that crusty ol' man anyhow    :biglaugh:    ............Art
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: don s on April 26, 2011, 05:19:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by DVSHUNTER:
haha mongolian tulip... Who wood believe such a thing?  Could have said it was western northern southern sugerbeen. All in good fun.
any newbie can see that, that is NOT western northern southern sugarbean. the barks too rough. don
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 26, 2011, 05:36:00 PM
Pearly Boy, just save me a couple good staves son. Thanks, Ole Crusty Roybert in Pa.
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: rover brewer on April 26, 2011, 06:01:00 PM
hearing how it split and the bark said hackberry to me its an easy splitter,not a good idea to have them close to a house ice stroms and wind due them in.that is a nice looking log you got good luck let us know how it goes I also read that they make good bows and I have a good source of them.
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: 2treks on April 26, 2011, 06:24:00 PM
I figured you did Roy,That was funny.
Chris,sounds like you are gonna be pulling some shavings eh?
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: DVSHUNTER on April 26, 2011, 07:17:00 PM
good find by the way. A few weeks ago and I wouldn't have know it was hackberry. Right before ojam I ended up with two 18in. Logs 66in. and 72in. I split one up and took it down to a ring, sealed the back, and then worked it down to profile @ ojam and a few days after I got home it curled itself into perfect reflex... Then passed that and went to about 8 1/2 in. of reflex. The ones I split, chased to a ring and left full size curled nicly into 2 inches or so of reflex. Very nice stuff.
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: SEMO_HUNTER on April 26, 2011, 07:36:00 PM
Hmmmm.......guess I'm gonna have to get to Hackin' after some Hackberry?

Does it actually have rings to chase or is it just solid white wood? Never seen it or used it before, but it sounds like it makes a good bent stick.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: Pat B on April 26, 2011, 07:41:00 PM
You should be able to just peel the bark and make a bow.
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 26, 2011, 08:20:00 PM
You will get a stave alright Roy, whether you will be able to dislodge it and use it is another question? .............The bark and sapwood came right off to a perfect back with ease, no ring chasing involved. Mine have curled about 2" already. I sealed the ends and left the rest bare. I am going to give them a year before  touch them. I have an unlimited supply where this log came from so I plan on getting another 10-12 staves in the next week or so.
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 26, 2011, 09:16:00 PM
Well I love you too Pearly Boy:) LMAO and glad it all worked out.
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: SEMO_HUNTER on April 26, 2011, 10:50:00 PM
Wow that makes me wanna go cut some even more now, I like the sounds of that and it even puts it's own reflex in itself........what more could a guy ask for? Maybe you could scream real loud at it and it would just jump out of the bark by itself?   :thumbsup:  

Hey Roybert, I'm gonna ask the mods if they can add a new emoticon to the list. I'd like to see a little crawfish running backwards so I could use it on you at times like these.   :goldtooth:
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: DVSHUNTER on April 26, 2011, 11:11:00 PM
pearl- I'm going to work it alot sooner. Probably next week. If I get off my bum and finish my sons bow. I've had it in the hot box for a few weeks now and it seems pretty dry. here is a pic of the "natural" reflex.

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss13/dvshunter/CIMG0158-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: okie64 on April 27, 2011, 07:57:00 AM
I'm interested to see how this hackberry works out. I just cut some of it myself a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: NYArrow on April 28, 2011, 07:42:00 PM
Thats' awesome...Pearly no worries I would've fallen for it. I probably would have searched for days on mongolian tulip. Great thread, hope the staves make some great bows for you!
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: Sal on May 03, 2011, 11:48:00 AM
I just figured it had an exotic name, like Russian olive.
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: SEMO_HUNTER on May 03, 2011, 02:20:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by DVSHUNTER:
pearl- I'm going to work it alot sooner. Probably next week. If I get off my bum and finish my sons bow. I've had it in the hot box for a few weeks now and it seems pretty dry. here is a pic of the "natural" reflex.

 (http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss13/dvshunter/CIMG0158-2.jpg)
Holy Smokes!! That is some serious reflex!
I like it!!   :thumbsup:  

Can't wait to see how this one turns out, please do a little follow along on it if you would Dave.
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on May 07, 2011, 04:57:00 PM
I now have 7 full staves and 2 sets of sisters worth of mongolian tulip to work this winter. The hickory is coming next. My plan is to have 25-30 peeled and sealed staves of various variety for winter working.
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: SEMO_HUNTER on May 09, 2011, 04:41:00 PM
I heard somewhere that Mongolian Tulip causes dementia. Have you experienced any ill thoughts towards others, strange dreams, or hallucinations?   :saywhat:
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on May 09, 2011, 06:38:00 PM
Not really, but fascinations of revenge keep drifting through my head??????? Could just be a side effect of the sapwood I touched while peeling the staves?????
Title: Re: Hey tree guys, what is this?
Post by: SEMO_HUNTER on May 09, 2011, 06:52:00 PM
:D