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Title: Do I need a hot box?
Post by: mpalmer9 on April 13, 2011, 09:06:00 PM
I have been reading some build alongs about putting reflex into bows by gluing on a backing like hickory.  Many of these mention using a hot box.  Is is necessary to use one?  What are some other options?
Title: Re: Do I need a hot box?
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 13, 2011, 09:08:00 PM
No you don't need a hot box. If you use URAC185 glue, just keep the glue up someplace where it's 70 degrees for 24 hours.
Title: Re: Do I need a hot box?
Post by: StoneAK on April 13, 2011, 09:26:00 PM
I am using Urac185 on my first bow ever tonight it is gluing up right now. So I will let you know how I like it tom. I usually use smooth on but I am like you and don't have a good hot box to use right now or the money to go build one.
Title: Re: Do I need a hot box?
Post by: eflanders on April 13, 2011, 09:43:00 PM
Yes you can glue in reflex or deflex as you glue up your bow.  Depending on the glue you use, you may or may not want a hot box to cure the glue.  Smooth-on cures best in a hot box but it is not needed if you have the time and 70-80'  workshop temps.  Urac185 is a wood to wood only glue as is Titebond.  Both of them will cure at room temps. But if your shop is not heated like mine is, a hot box helps in that environment too.
Title: Re: Do I need a hot box?
Post by: StoneAK on April 13, 2011, 10:08:00 PM
I have a heated shop it stays right at 65-70 degrees in there. When I use smooth on it sets for a minimum of 24 hours before I do anything with it. I did learn the hard way that you should glue the backing and the bow so there is a very good bond. I had a piece of hickory start to come apart during tiller and had to back and steam the whole bow to release glue and start over.
Title: Re: Do I need a hot box?
Post by: macbow on April 13, 2011, 10:15:00 PM
If the temp in my shop is under 70 degrees i put a blanket tent over my form and use a 100 watt bulb for a couple of hours.
Urac is supposed to be good at 65 degrees but it takes forever.
Ron
Title: Re: Do I need a hot box?
Post by: StoneAK on April 13, 2011, 10:32:00 PM
Thanks for the advice I may have to try that macbow
Title: Re: Do I need a hot box?
Post by: highplains55 on April 13, 2011, 10:55:00 PM
the foam board with metal glued on makes a nice box, some light bulbs and stick a cheap metal thermometer in the end works.
Title: Re: Do I need a hot box?
Post by: Lee Robinson . on April 13, 2011, 11:28:00 PM
I know a guy that during glue up actually put the bow & form in his truck with the windows up and parked it in the direct sun (during the summer). It probably got up to 120+ degrees or so according to him, maybe 130. Perhaps not a perfect solution, but it was better than nothing. Just a thought. He used smooth on and never had a problem with that bow.

That said, I do use a hot box.