Title: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: crgibson on March 29, 2011, 07:17:00 PM
Post by: crgibson on March 29, 2011, 07:17:00 PM
Just finished this Red Oak bow with the help of 4est build along. I did change some of the dimensions here are my specs (http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff371/enterprise401/725Brace.jpg) !["]("http://")
7 1/4 Brace, 68"ttt, 9" riser, 4 1/2" handle, 2" fades, 1 3/4wide to 1/2" tips. Full 1/2" thick for the entire length of the bow
Got me a junk store bathroom scale and got some approx. weights
40# @ 28
45# @ 29
47# @ 30
(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff371/enterprise401/30inchFullDraw.jpg)
My full draw is 30" it seems to be holding up so far, coming up on 200 shots. Top limb is stiff not working much past the riser. Need some help please
I got a corner full of busted selfbows this is the first bow that I have made that has lasted past 25 shots some less. (http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff371/enterprise401/KeenEye.jpg)
Thanks for looking, Crg
7 1/4 Brace, 68"ttt, 9" riser, 4 1/2" handle, 2" fades, 1 3/4wide to 1/2" tips. Full 1/2" thick for the entire length of the bow
Got me a junk store bathroom scale and got some approx. weights
40# @ 28
45# @ 29
47# @ 30
(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff371/enterprise401/30inchFullDraw.jpg)
My full draw is 30" it seems to be holding up so far, coming up on 200 shots. Top limb is stiff not working much past the riser. Need some help please
I got a corner full of busted selfbows this is the first bow that I have made that has lasted past 25 shots some less. (http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff371/enterprise401/KeenEye.jpg)
Thanks for looking, Crg
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: Art B on March 29, 2011, 08:14:00 PM
Post by: Art B on March 29, 2011, 08:14:00 PM
I'm impressed with you guys making board bows. Really nice work.........Art
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on March 29, 2011, 08:27:00 PM
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on March 29, 2011, 08:27:00 PM
Thats a great piece of work from an oak board. Nice profile as well. I see the stiff spot you spoke of on the upper limb. Its about mid way to the tip, I wouldnt sweat it. Shoot it!
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: aric on March 29, 2011, 08:31:00 PM
Post by: aric on March 29, 2011, 08:31:00 PM
looks good to me
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: StoneAK on March 29, 2011, 09:15:00 PM
Post by: StoneAK on March 29, 2011, 09:15:00 PM
It does look good and Red oak is an inexpensive way to get bow material if you cannot cut your own. Looks good
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: Dave Bowers on March 29, 2011, 09:54:00 PM
Post by: Dave Bowers on March 29, 2011, 09:54:00 PM
very cool
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: Ironfist_Canada on March 30, 2011, 12:43:00 PM
Post by: Ironfist_Canada on March 30, 2011, 12:43:00 PM
Great job and a great looking bow enjoy.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: matts2 on March 30, 2011, 02:12:00 PM
Post by: matts2 on March 30, 2011, 02:12:00 PM
Looks great, well done.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: don s on March 30, 2011, 02:35:00 PM
Post by: don s on March 30, 2011, 02:35:00 PM
i think the tiller looks fine. don
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: 4est trekker on March 30, 2011, 07:54:00 PM
Post by: 4est trekker on March 30, 2011, 07:54:00 PM
Wow, that's a very fine looking bow! Both the braced and full-draw profiles are spot-on. Excellent work all the way around. Thanks for sharing! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: fish n chicks on March 30, 2011, 08:39:00 PM
Post by: fish n chicks on March 30, 2011, 08:39:00 PM
Very sweet!
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: nschlag on March 30, 2011, 11:54:00 PM
Post by: nschlag on March 30, 2011, 11:54:00 PM
nice work
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: 8Charles on March 31, 2011, 12:42:00 PM
Post by: 8Charles on March 31, 2011, 12:42:00 PM
Looks Great!!!
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: Igor on March 31, 2011, 07:05:00 PM
Post by: Igor on March 31, 2011, 07:05:00 PM
congrats on your shooter!
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Glenn
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Glenn
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: Red Tailed Hawk on March 31, 2011, 08:15:00 PM
Post by: Red Tailed Hawk on March 31, 2011, 08:15:00 PM
Enjoy the new shooter.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: TimB on March 31, 2011, 08:20:00 PM
Post by: TimB on March 31, 2011, 08:20:00 PM
I like the little accents in the riser. are those thin strips of walnut by chance?
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: crgibson on April 01, 2011, 01:41:00 AM
Post by: crgibson on April 01, 2011, 01:41:00 AM
Thanks Tim, Added two pix of handle/riser detail.You were right on about the walnut good eye.
(http://[img]http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff371/enterprise401/IMG_0172.jpg)[/IMG]
(http://[img]http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff371/enterprise401/IMG_0173.jpg)[/IMG]
Take care, Crg
(http://[img]http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff371/enterprise401/IMG_0172.jpg)[/IMG]
(http://[img]http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff371/enterprise401/IMG_0173.jpg)[/IMG]
Take care, Crg
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: crgibson on April 01, 2011, 01:48:00 AM
Post by: crgibson on April 01, 2011, 01:48:00 AM
Sorry about the pix trying again
(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff371/enterprise401/IMG_0172.jpg)
(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff371/enterprise401/IMG_0173.jpg)
Crg
(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff371/enterprise401/IMG_0172.jpg)
(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff371/enterprise401/IMG_0173.jpg)
Crg
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: TimB on April 01, 2011, 09:23:00 AM
Post by: TimB on April 01, 2011, 09:23:00 AM
very cool! I did something similar on my second board bow, there are pics around here somewhere.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: Rick Enos on April 01, 2011, 10:26:00 AM
Post by: Rick Enos on April 01, 2011, 10:26:00 AM
For what its worth.....I've built 4 or 5 of these red oak bows.Via.bow build along.I have used dry wall tape to back all of them.4 layers of tape with tite bond 111 over each layer.After that I purchased some synthetic snake skin to put over the tape & It has served well with all of the bows I made.Shot the heck out of all of them.The drywall tape leaves little dimples(close to the texture of snake skin)And it actually feels like snakeskin.I will post a pic.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv166/renos53/100_2182.jpg)
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv166/renos53/100_2183.jpg)
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv166/renos53/100_2175.jpg)
In my own opinion I would not feel comfortible shooting a bow that I built out of red oak with out backing it with something.I believe I have about 20.00 in this bow- wood & all.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv166/renos53/100_2182.jpg)
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv166/renos53/100_2183.jpg)
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv166/renos53/100_2175.jpg)
In my own opinion I would not feel comfortible shooting a bow that I built out of red oak with out backing it with something.I believe I have about 20.00 in this bow- wood & all.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: twitchstick on April 01, 2011, 10:42:00 AM
Post by: twitchstick on April 01, 2011, 10:42:00 AM
Good work I love the handle. Yea 4est trekker got me hooked too.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: crgibson on April 01, 2011, 11:06:00 AM
Post by: crgibson on April 01, 2011, 11:06:00 AM
Very Nice Rick, I hear what your saying.
I was going to paper back this one but could not wait to shot it. I should of, My top limb is a little over stressed should have spent just a bit more time tiller and stayed with a 28" draw. The bow started to lift some grain on the back edge . Hope it not to late.
Thanks Chuck
(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff371/enterprise401/FRET2.jpg)
(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff371/enterprise401/FRET1.jpg)
I was going to paper back this one but could not wait to shot it. I should of, My top limb is a little over stressed should have spent just a bit more time tiller and stayed with a 28" draw. The bow started to lift some grain on the back edge . Hope it not to late.
Thanks Chuck
(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff371/enterprise401/FRET2.jpg)
(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff371/enterprise401/FRET1.jpg)
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: Aznboi3644 on April 01, 2011, 04:12:00 PM
Post by: Aznboi3644 on April 01, 2011, 04:12:00 PM
I've tried that fiberglass tape...it doesn't do much to save the bow if it breaks. I've found if its gonna break its gonna break.
I've never backed any red oak board bows though. I'd rather use straight grained boards not needing a backing.
I've never backed any red oak board bows though. I'd rather use straight grained boards not needing a backing.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: TimB on April 01, 2011, 05:43:00 PM
Post by: TimB on April 01, 2011, 05:43:00 PM
linen works well too. Two coats of paint with a very very light sanding in between smooths out the texture.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: IGetTargetPanic on April 06, 2011, 07:56:00 AM
Post by: IGetTargetPanic on April 06, 2011, 07:56:00 AM
Man I hope to build a self bow one day.. Great job..
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: razorback on April 06, 2011, 07:48:00 PM
Post by: razorback on April 06, 2011, 07:48:00 PM
Rick, I would think 4 layers would be overkill and just add a lot of weight. I'm with AZ, if its going to break it will break, backing just prolongs it and saves on the pants dirtying explosions. :scared: I have been using drywall papertape, that has saved some of those said explosions. that said, where do you get that artificial snake skin, I like the look of it and I bet it is easier and cheaper than the real thing.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: red hill on April 06, 2011, 07:55:00 PM
Post by: red hill on April 06, 2011, 07:55:00 PM
CR, that's an incredible red oak bow. Beautiful job.
Rick, is that the snack skin fabric from Rudder? Thought about trying that myself.
Good job, guys.
Stan :thumbsup:
Rick, is that the snack skin fabric from Rudder? Thought about trying that myself.
Good job, guys.
Stan :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: crgibson on April 07, 2011, 04:44:00 PM
Post by: crgibson on April 07, 2011, 04:44:00 PM
Thanks Guys, I have not check in lately. The bow lifted some grain but I rounded the back edges some more and got under it looks to be solid. Re-tillering to a 28"draw shooting for 40lbs give or take. almost forgot will be backing the bow with one of the above. Thanks again for looking will post when finished, Crg
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: Rick Enos on April 07, 2011, 05:18:00 PM
Post by: Rick Enos on April 07, 2011, 05:18:00 PM
I did one with a Rudders backing.Thats a very nice cloth backing.I will post a picture of one I did a while back.The place to get the artificial snake backing is Custom King archery.There is no strength to the custom king backing.Its just for looks.The rudders backing though not as nice looking in my opinion is a very substantial - strong backing.
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv166/renos53/100_2200.jpg)
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv166/renos53/100_2201.jpg)
The top picture is the Rudders cloth backing.The bottom Picture is a 60# osage bow I built for hunting last year.It has a differant type of custom King backing than the first picture I posted a week or so ago.I need to repeat that the costom king backing is a photo tranfer tape on backing (no strength)
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv166/renos53/100_2200.jpg)
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv166/renos53/100_2201.jpg)
The top picture is the Rudders cloth backing.The bottom Picture is a 60# osage bow I built for hunting last year.It has a differant type of custom King backing than the first picture I posted a week or so ago.I need to repeat that the costom king backing is a photo tranfer tape on backing (no strength)
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: Rick Enos on April 07, 2011, 05:35:00 PM
Post by: Rick Enos on April 07, 2011, 05:35:00 PM
CR Gibson..If you have to back your bow you may want to try a rawhide backing.I believe even with the lifting thats in your pictures you could still save that bow.I think the Rudders snake backing would do the same.I dont want to sound like a big bow making no it all, but I have made a bunch & for what its worth thats my opinion.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: crgibson on April 07, 2011, 08:39:00 PM
Post by: crgibson on April 07, 2011, 08:39:00 PM
Thanks again Rick, I was thinking that very same thing "Rawhide" got a few calf hides saved should I leave the hair on? ha ha. Im not to flush right now so the Rudders is out But looks good. Will have to keep my eyes peeled when I make it to a bigger town, Plus im to impatient Things coming to Canada take for ever and cost twice.
Thanks take care, Crg
Thanks take care, Crg
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: George Tsoukalas on April 07, 2011, 10:19:00 PM
Post by: George Tsoukalas on April 07, 2011, 10:19:00 PM
You are drawing down on the buck of a lifetime. Would you trust that bow after fixing the crack? My advice is start another. Jawge
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Bow
Post by: crgibson on April 07, 2011, 11:20:00 PM
Post by: crgibson on April 07, 2011, 11:20:00 PM
Hi George, "No" but its not really a crack crack it was run out on my top edge. I rounded it more and got under it, it looks good. I have started to re-teller and working on the top limb also droping the draw down to 28" and looking for 40ish Lbs. or lower would be alright. I cant give up on it. I have started a new bow red oak with hickory backing,very thin, low pounds, goal weight 30lbs at 25-26" After what I have learned from you and others I droped my standard a bit. Start slow start low. Watch for new post with my little shooter.
Thanks George, your friend Crg
Thanks George, your friend Crg