Last post in the Bowyers Bench. Got myself banned. They deleted whichever one it was so I'm not sure exactly what I said but I'm guessing I must've eluded to selling a bow. You are a great bunch of guys here gonna miss talking and learning from you.
You have a PM
No. Not cool. You have been an excellent contributer to this forum and a great guy to have around. I have been encouraged and inspired by your work and help here.
Here's hoping it gets sorted out rightly.
If there truly was an offense and it's the first, a warning and an explanation should be enough.
Either way, thanks for your contributions here!
CJ
That could be it.. I just read the posting policies for the first time.. it's only been 3 years...LOL
Become a sponsor.. then you can post in the classifieds.
I am sure if you plead ignorance and become a sponsor, all will be right...
Hope it works out for you!
That seems absurd. Did an administrator actually say you are banned or did they just delete one of your threads?
Hope you'all can work it out, Tim!
I've read through the thread in question and I took it more as offering a favor to someone, not advertising? Definitely not banning material.
Are you sure they said banned? Getting a post deleted is one thing, but banned is completely another.
I really, really, hope it all works out Tim. You are a great presence to have around here and it would make me sad to see you go.
SEMO
It may have been the www.Savagebows.com (http://www.savagebows.com) on your signature that did it. Thats a no-no according to the rules? Become an assoc. sponsor and rake in the bow orders Tim.
You still can't sell bows as an associate sponsor Pearl, you have to become a full sponsor if you wanna sell bows. Everything else is ok though and you can put your web address inside your profile.
I think my associate sponsorship was well worth the money and I'll keep it active as long as Terry lets me.
Hopefully you can work it out....Unfortunetly its not the first time this has happened to a good contributer.
Tim,
You have my email I will miss hearing your comments and seeing your bows on here. I will stay in touch through your site man
I've had posts deleted before and I'm not banned, just have to be careful what I say. They (the moderators) have said that everyone has had a post deleted at some time, the Wensel brothers, Don Thomas, killdeer...
No, the whole thread was deleted not just the post. Plus the www. that I had on there. I didnt think much about that since other sites allow it.
An administrator did tell me that I couldn't talk about bows or bow building any more. Thanks for all the support guys. I'm sure I'll run into some of you on the other forums. It's been good talking to you guys!
This seems harsh.
I'd think it would be fine to talk about the art as long as were NOT trying to sell.
Well...
My plea to Admin..
We all make mistakes.. how bout' a warning and a second chance??????
To be honest, I am on so many forums for different things.. the rules start to blend together.. figure as long as you are not cursing and posting nude pics of yourself with the bow.. all is good :}
So that is my only request: Slap on the wrist first?... how bout' it?
maybe he got some warnings...??
I do not believe Kelly was banned from the forum (he would not have been able to post if he had), only from posting anything that might be taken as selling, advertising, or soliciting the selling of his bows. The simple solution is to become an Associate Sponsor of TradGang, like many others have, and then it would all be moot. From a different perspective, like that of the Paid Sponsors, is it right that somebody can solicit sales, regardless of the product, without paying his share and abiding by the rules?
The following are the rules for this forum as stated in the very first post by Terry when it was created:
"There will be NO commercial sales allowed.
NO showcasing of bows for sale.
NO sales commerce of any kind.
NO posing links for sales.
NO hinting of bows for sale.
This forum is for the making and showing of crafted trad bows by Trad Gang Members ONLY!!!
Sponors and Assoc Sponsors of Trad Gang are allowed to post pics, build alongs, and sale notices. Please post your bow ads on the Sponsors's Classifieds.
Any suspect threads for sales outside this scope will be removed, and could result in your posting privileges being revoked.
Hope that is clear, and you guys have fun. Looking forward to viewing your work."
What I have seen over the past several months, the moderators are only enforcing the rules and are not the offending party.
I will not drink the kool aid
Sorry to hear Savage.There isn't enough build alongs as it is.Yours are, always nice to follow.You will be missed.
Walt does have a good point. I had a couple of my posts yanked before I became an Associate Sponsor, and I took it all in stride. I wasn't offended and I made plans to pay my dues to become a sponsor when money would allow. Since I became a sponsor none of my ads have been removed and I haven't gotten any warnings, so I guess I'm not doing anything wrong or I would have surely heard about it?
Rules are rules and I can completely understand that.
I still hate to see Tim leave us, but he has his reasons and I don't think the mods are totally to blame either. I understand how much work it must be running a site this large.
Take care Tim, I wish you well.
Semo said it well. Tim will be missed. It was good to meet you.
i have been watching this unfold for some time now, and finally had to add my 0.2c worth.
everyone is just writing Tim off. i think we should be convincing him to stay.
i know he has resigned himself to leaving, but we should convince him otherwise, and find out what has really happened here
his input is great, we really do not need to be losing good people.
maybe a moderator could chime in here, with what exactly happened.
and besides-he pretty much puts his life on the line looking after you guys( that doesnt affect me, i am a canuck- but just an observation!!)- not saying he deserves different treatment to anybody else- just remember it.
c'mon terry an'tradgang!!!
Wayne, I already spoke to Tim through email and he explained it to me quite clear. I think it's a dead issue at this point and we should all just move on.
I don't want to see him pack up and leave either, but it's ultimately his decision and nobody is forcing him.
...come on Guys .. This Guy gave us so much more serving our Country ( FOR OUR FREEDOM).. I know rules are rules.."BUT" ??? I want him on here !!!! Thats my thoughts.. Jeff
p.s. Savage...I'd love to own one of your bow ...Also Welcome home and thank you for your service !!!! God Bless !!!!
Well said..
Thanks Roy...maybe we all owe a little extra too our "VETS" !!!!
Very well said...
We owe them more than anyone could pay. For they lay their life on the line for us.
Tim: God Bless you and yours,Thanks for all you have done and all you will do.
"VETS" WE LOVE THEM ALL"
HardHead
Does't sound as bad as what I did when I first started posting. I bad mouthed a perfectly innocent man. Shouldn't have bad mouthed anyone, this is not the place for it, I was totally out of line, I got a warning and rightfully so, but I didn't get band. Your punishment seems a little harsh!
Forgot to add that I totally agree our vets deserve special reconcideration on such matters.Doesn't seem right for a man that has been willing to pay the ultimate sacrifice for each and every one of us.God bless you and I hope this all works out in your favor.