I'm working on a red oak board bow right now that's a combination paddle bow/ holmegaard design. 67" tip-tip, 9" non-bending handle, plus about 1" for each fade. 2" wide at the fades with a straight taper to 3.25" wide at the widest part of the limb, 19" from center. The last 10" of each limb are narrowed and non-bending, with laminated reflexed tips that end up about 3/8" wide.
With the wealth of info here, I usually just do a search, get ideas, learn what I need to know, and make up my mind on my own. But I haven't been able to find/ decide upon what I want, so I've been forced out of my usual lurking pattern.
With the tips as skinny as they are, my options are overlays, tied or glued on, or pin nocks. I haven't seen anyone discuss how wide they make their pin nocks, so I'm not sure if I have enough "meat" to make those work. The tips are already sanded/ rounded (lack of forethought) so glued-on overlays won't work too well. Tied-on "back nocks" are my best option, but I think they look too primitive/ rough for the smooth lines of this bow. Plus the laminated tips look really nice & I don't want to cover them up with thread.
I guess the best option would be to remove the tips & re-laminate them, and carve the back nocks in as I'm shaping them. But I really don't want to do that... You think pin nocks could work?
Pics to follow later today...
3/8" is plenty of room for pin nocks. Another bowyer I've seen on other forums makes them on his bows where his tips are often 5/16". The tips on my bows are often 3/8" and I just use regular nocks.
For red oak, I'd sand the back flat and add overlays of a hardwood or horn.
Thanks for the advice! Ended up carving in normal nocks, soaked them in CA glue & figured if they broke I could always re-laminate the tips. So far so good!
Sorry the pictures took so long! Ended up outta town for spring break and without access to a computer.
Bow is tillered out now to 35# at 24". Should lose a few #'s with final sanding. Took 3/4" of just-unstrung set. Will be a gift for my girlfriend. Took her out shooting a couple weeks ago using my brother's 42# @ 28" boo-backed maple & she had a blast.
I've pulled it to my 29" draw length with no problems, which should be 45-50#, so I'm sure I'll enjoy it as much as her! :archer2:
Here are pics from last week...
Just under 3/8" wide
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/189965_10150440598005531_651545530_17863194_1092924_n.jpg)
The cat approves
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/189965_10150440598000531_651545530_17863193_7157890_n.jpg)
Better shot of the lamination contrast... Red oak bow, red oak, poplar, red oak, & poplar.
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/189965_10150440598010531_651545530_17863195_733932_n.jpg)
Nocks carved in
(http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x363/kochne/fingertip.jpg?t=1301271877)
Grain on back
(http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x363/kochne/backgrain.jpg?t=1301271689)
Toasted belly
(http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x363/kochne/toastedbelly.jpg?t=1301271771)
Back profile
(http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x363/kochne/frontprofile.jpg?t=1301271807)
Side profile
(http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x363/kochne/sideprofile.jpg?t=1301271843)
Braced
(http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x363/kochne/braced.jpg?t=1301271905)
Still need to laminate & carve handle, finish sanding, stain & seal. This will be my first unbacked bow. Knock on wood. (just happen to have some handy) :smileystooges: Have poplar shafts ready to make her some arrows once I have a for-sure draw length measured and get a spine tester made.
Full draw pics later tonight...possibly with its future owner!
thats a different design for me!interested in seeing your full draw . nice work !
are you kin to charles and david koch
Very nice!
very cool
Thanks for the compliments! No Charles or David in my family that I know of.
Put on a little stain to show off the grain. Handle is gluing up tonight. Could do my own full-draw, but I want her to be the one to show it off!
Julia & her new bow :thumbsup:
(http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x363/kochne/fulldraw.jpg?t=1301462246)
Not 100% happy with the tiller, but it's close enough for me, using only a mirror & bathroom scale...
The bow looks pretty cool, but I keep going back to that pic with the cat. Does the cat have a head.
full draw looks fine id be happy with it !
they own the company i work for .billionars
Haha yeah, he's got a head. His head's down, he's scratching the back corner of his jaw on the bow. Light-colored blur is his ear.
Billionaires, huh? In that case, I think I probably am related. I'm pretty sure of it... ;)
Tiller looks good, I haven't seen a bow like this. It's different, I like it. Good job!
I seen this design in TBB1 in west coast indians section. It is cool to see it working. Nice work I like the look of the petite tips.