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Title: smooth-on question
Post by: karrow on March 05, 2011, 08:51:00 PM
getting ready to try my first laminated bow. boo backed hickory. smooth-on was my glue of choice and i am trying to figure out what method of clamping would work best for me. i did a search and all look fine. planning on curing with heat in a reflex profile. so my questions are.

1 what clamping method do you perfer?
2 do i use a toothing plane (hacksaw blade) for the joints?
3 does the saran rap clamping trick work with smooth-on?

 thanks alot
Title: Re: smooth-on question
Post by: kennym on March 06, 2011, 09:33:00 AM
1.- I use c-clamps on riser blocks,and airhose on bows. If you use clamps on the whole bow, you may want something to equal out pressure, a pressure strip of some sort.

2.- I never do, sanding with 40-60 grit is all it takes.

3.- Me gluing without plastic wrap would be a disaster! I use the cheaper walmart stuff, not as clingy and easier to handle.

Good luck and have fun!!
Title: Re: smooth-on question
Post by: tenbrook on March 06, 2011, 09:34:00 AM
1.  Fire hose or rubber bands.

2.  No.  

3.  Never heard of this technique.  I use saran rap to protect my form/firehose from getting epoxy on it.

Good luck and be sure to post photos of the bow once it is complete.

Tenbrook
Title: Re: smooth-on question
Post by: kennym on March 06, 2011, 10:22:00 AM
3- Reread this, plastic wrap is only for protection of stuff you don't want glue on.
Title: Re: smooth-on question
Post by: karrow on March 06, 2011, 11:23:00 AM
kennym tenbrook thanks alot.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: smooth-on question
Post by: Dick in Seattle on March 06, 2011, 11:38:00 AM
Like the rest, I use the plastic to protect the form and clamps.   I use overhead clamps with steel through pins.   Made these from 3 way edge clamps:

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h186/CaptainDick/clamp.jpg)

3 Way edge clamp

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h186/CaptainDick/form30.jpg)

bottom screw posts removed

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h186/CaptainDick/form57.jpg)

in use with steel pins through form

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h186/CaptainDick/layup148.jpg)

hanger straps are added to lengthen for the riser.

I like these because they center the pressure and pivot on the pin to clamp at any angle on the riser
Title: Re: smooth-on question
Post by: hardwaymike on March 06, 2011, 12:04:00 PM
Nice, Dick! Cool idea.
Title: Re: smooth-on question
Post by: Zradix on March 09, 2011, 02:26:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by kennym:

2.- I never do, sanding with 40-60 grit is all it takes.


Good luck and have fun!!
Really 40-60 grit?
Do you do that by hand or power?
Seems like power always gives a finer finish than by hand if using the same grit.

I had no idea it needed to be so rough.
Title: Re: smooth-on question
Post by: Ironfist_Canada on March 09, 2011, 08:42:00 PM
Great idea Dick I like it.
Title: Re: smooth-on question
Post by: Savage on March 09, 2011, 10:02:00 PM
Dick that has to be the best clamping set up I've seen yet.
Title: Re: smooth-on question
Post by: Mt. Clemens Bowyer on March 12, 2011, 11:53:00 AM
Karrow

 If you decide to use the fire hose method for clamping up your bow, and the bow you want to build is a recurve, I would suggest splitting up a few 3/8" dowels length wise, and putting these in your bow form at any point where there is a radius. Example: The riser, and the curves near the ends of the bow.  It will make tighter glue joints.