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Title: Paper back question?
Post by: twitchstick on February 15, 2011, 10:19:00 AM
I was going to paper back a board bow I have been working on. One question I have is after I glue down the paper and have worked out the bubbles ect.. do I want to put a layer of glue over the outside? Or will the paper wick enough glue I don't need to?
Title: Re: Paper back question?
Post by: DanaM on February 15, 2011, 12:11:00 PM
Never done a paper backing, but I would treat it same as linen, layer of TB3 then apply material, work bubbles out and aplly a light coat of glueover the material.
Title: Re: Paper back question?
Post by: Pat B on February 15, 2011, 03:19:00 PM
You want the paper and glue to be a homogeneous backing like fiber glass cloth and resin are. So get the glue to saturate the paper and if it doesn't cover the back with glue.
Title: Re: Paper back question?
Post by: twitchstick on February 15, 2011, 03:54:00 PM
Thanks guys that will help me.
Title: Re: Paper back question?
Post by: KochNE on February 16, 2011, 12:44:00 AM
TBIII is kinda thickish, doesn't soak into the paper bag well, and I didn't want to add worthless mass & waste glue on backings.  Glue the paper down well, and then wipe the excess squeezed out glue w/ soaking wet hands onto the topside.  The diluted glue soaks into the top of the paper well and does the job.
Title: Re: Paper back question?
Post by: Pat B on February 16, 2011, 08:56:00 AM
You can thin the glue with water and not adversely affect the adhesion. If the paper has a finish on it it may not absorbe the glue well.
Title: Re: Paper back question?
Post by: twitchstick on February 16, 2011, 10:20:00 AM
Thanks Pat and KochNE I will water it down if needed. I am going to sand the out the recurve tips alittle more and glue it up today.
Title: Re: Paper back question?
Post by: Pat B on February 16, 2011, 11:47:00 AM
If your recurve tips are static there is no reason to back them. It will just add more physical weight. Stop the backing about 6" from the tip and put a decorative wrap at the end.
Title: Re: Paper back question?
Post by: twitchstick on February 16, 2011, 04:54:00 PM
Will I want to add my wrap after I tiller it?
I have alot of fly tying thread and floss will that work?
Title: Re: Paper back question?
Post by: macbow on February 16, 2011, 07:36:00 PM
Need to finish the tiller or the wrap will interfere unless it's in a finished non working section. Any type of thread or sinew just so the glue can soak in. You can also add saw dust to glue to make it a paste to smooth over the wrap then sand when dry to a smooth finish.
Ron
Title: Re: Paper back question?
Post by: Pat B on February 16, 2011, 11:52:00 PM
I use silk thread but fly tying thread will work. Use a heavier gauge fly thread because it should be wrapped tightly. I seal wraps with super glue. Let it cure and sand it with very fine sandpaper coat with glue again and sand it smooth again. This makes a solid band for good support.
 You will want to add te wrap after the tillering is done and final sanding but before adding the finish.