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Title: Holly Molly, I cut my bow in half.!
Post by: recurvericky on February 07, 2011, 07:05:00 PM
But I meant to. I am in the process of installing an Bow Bolt. Yesterday, I built the jig and filled it with expandable foam and allowed it to cure overnight. This morning I cut it into with my compound miter saw. What a nerve racking experience. It did turn out well and I even drilled the holes to accept the bow bolt.

I think this was the most nerve racking thing I have ever done since I began building bows.
Title: Re: Holly Molly, I cut my bow in half.!
Post by: hova on February 07, 2011, 07:48:00 PM
i think youre on probation for speaking of cutting a bow up ,  and not posting any pics.


im googling a bow- bolt. you could have saved me all this hassle you know...


lol gj tho , lets see some pics already...

-hov
Title: Re: Holly Molly, I cut my bow in half.!
Post by: recurvericky on February 07, 2011, 08:49:00 PM
I will post picture tomorrow.
Title: Re: Holly Molly, I cut my bow in half.!
Post by: xbmedic on February 07, 2011, 09:51:00 PM
I felt the same way when I cut mine for the bow bolt, and mine was a production bow. I can't imagine what it was like after spending all that time on such a beautiful build.
Title: Re: Holly Molly, I cut my bow in half.!
Post by: recurvericky on February 07, 2011, 10:21:00 PM
I checked my setup about 10 times before I made my cut. Drilling the holes was even more time consuming at I checked and re-checked a dozen times. I am quite pleased with the results so far. Tomorrow I plan to glue in the bow bolt. Do you have any suggestions on that step?
Title: Re: Holly Molly, I cut my bow in half.!
Post by: Walt Francis on February 07, 2011, 11:05:00 PM
Double check and make sure:

The Bow Bolt is tightened all the way before installing it.

Do a pre-assembly with all clamps and alignment material/jigs.

Check & recheck the tip alignment, both pre & post glue-up.
Title: Re: Holly Molly, I cut my bow in half.!
Post by: xbmedic on February 08, 2011, 01:30:00 PM
What Walt Said.
Title: Re: Holly Molly, I cut my bow in half.!
Post by: JamesJamison on February 08, 2011, 05:26:00 PM
I would be afraid to even try.
Title: Re: Holly Molly, I cut my bow in half.!
Post by: SEMO_HUNTER on February 08, 2011, 07:11:00 PM
Yeah, I don't think I could bring myself to do it either?
I'd rather just get a longer hard case to carry it in if I decided to fly somewhere to hunt, or find a safe place to tuck it away while on a road trip. Hope it works well for you Ricky, good luck.
Title: Re: Holly Molly, I cut my bow in half.!
Post by: beetlebailey1977 on February 08, 2011, 07:49:00 PM
Yeah I would use it then build the bow after it was installed.  Would dread cutting it up.
Title: Re: Holly Molly, I cut my bow in half.!
Post by: Dmaxshawn on February 08, 2011, 08:05:00 PM
Best of luck.  Like stated earlier make absolutely sure that the bow bolt is in the locked position.  Hope it holds for you.  Not real sure as to what gave first.  The bolt is just as tight as it can get.  


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Title: Re: Holly Molly, I cut my bow in half.!
Post by: recurvericky on February 08, 2011, 09:21:00 PM
Man, you are killing me with that picture. Did you contact Warren's Archery about it?
Title: Re: Holly Molly, I cut my bow in half.!
Post by: Dmaxshawn on February 08, 2011, 09:30:00 PM
Nothing to do with Warrens Archery.  The mechanical part of the bolt didn't fail.  The bolt is still "screwed" or "twist locked" together.  The top of the bolt pulled out or the phenolic gave way or either the wood gave away.  No one knows.  The bow bolt is a good concept but it has failed many times.  You do what you want but I'm just trying to save you the headache of possible failure.  

I have another 2 piecer and its got the brass sleeve from three rivers and I trust that system or Big Jims system.  

I hope your not coming to full draw in a coulee on a big 5 point and it gives way.  I know I'll never have another bow bolt.  Sorry for the negative post but that would be my luck.  


Shawn
Title: Re: Holly Molly, I cut my bow in half.!
Post by: recurvericky on February 08, 2011, 10:40:00 PM
The owner of Warren Archery told me that some woods do not work well with the bolt. My bolt will be completely in Actionwood.
Title: Re: Holly Molly, I cut my bow in half.!
Post by: Dmaxshawn on February 09, 2011, 06:22:00 AM
Then it should hold very well.  Best of luck to you.  

Double check alignment before drilling.

Shawn
Title: Re: Holly Molly, I cut my bow in half.!
Post by: recurvericky on February 09, 2011, 08:44:00 PM
I glue the bow bolt in today and will check it in the morning. Keep your fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Holly Molly, I cut my bow in half.!
Post by: kennym on February 09, 2011, 08:51:00 PM
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Holly Molly, I cut my bow in half.!
Post by: PV on February 09, 2011, 09:47:00 PM
One reason (there may be more)the bow in the pic broke is because the glue did not adhere to the bowbolt. There was sufficient glue applied the  bolt but it did not adhere to the bolt for some reason.

A friend and I glued up two bows with the same batch of epoxy (MT 13 ?) His gave way just like the bow in the picture. Mine held. spoke to Craig about it and the first thing he asked was did the bolt have a good coating of glue on it when removed from the bow.

I have since gone to the fiberglas sleeve

Good luck with your project.
Title: Re: Holly Molly, I cut my bow in half.!
Post by: Dmaxshawn on February 09, 2011, 09:50:00 PM
I'm waiting on the pics Ricky.
Title: Re: Holly Molly, I cut my bow in half.!
Post by: BMN on February 19, 2011, 01:07:00 AM
Hey Ricky, how did it turn out?