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Title: Question about backing with denim.
Post by: Flyboy718 on February 02, 2011, 04:47:00 PM
Has anyone used old jeans to back a board bow with?  Any pointers would be well appreciated, using tite bond II.
Title: Re: Question about backing with denim.
Post by: Pat B on February 02, 2011, 04:57:00 PM
Any cloth will work as a backing. One problem with denim is it is thick and once you add the weight of the glue I think it would rob your bow of performance. Silk or linen would be a better option. You can get either at a thrift store in the form of neck ties, scarfs, blouses or skirts.
Title: Re: Question about backing with denim.
Post by: Flyboy718 on February 02, 2011, 05:06:00 PM
K, going by Goodwill on the way home then...
Title: Re: Question about backing with denim.
Post by: Flyboy718 on February 02, 2011, 05:07:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Flyboy718:
K, going by Goodwill on the way home then...
any certain procedures for the silk or linen application....saturate it with glue and glue already on the bow then wipe it clean after applying backing?
Title: Re: Question about backing with denim.
Post by: hova on February 02, 2011, 06:25:00 PM
thin layer on the fabric , let it dry , thin layer on the bow , let it dry , then glue together.


thats iirc , not experience. id hold off on experience.


and how'd they look at you when you bought that pink silk skirt...

-hov
Title: Re: Question about backing with denim.
Post by: Pat B on February 02, 2011, 11:53:00 PM
I cut the material in strips just a little wider than the limb and use two pieces, one for each limb, overlapped at the handle. Lots easier to work that way.
 I soak the material in water while I'm preping the bows back with a layer of glue. Remove the cloth from the water and get the excess water off. Add glue to a strip and lay it on the limb. Start at the handle and work out the limb removing air bubbles and excess glue pockets. When you lay it down cover the handle. With the second piece lay it over the other on the handle and work it out the limb like with the other. If the material lays flat on the back there is no need to wrap it. You'll know when you start to work the cloth. Have a few strips of old bed sheet ready for wrapping if needed.
 After about an hour or so you can trim the edges with a sharp razor. After a day dress up the edges with a file or sanding block working from back to belly so you don't pull the material up. The glue and cloth should be a solid backing when cured and not just glued down cloth.
Title: Re: Question about backing with denim.
Post by: Flyboy718 on February 03, 2011, 08:34:00 AM
I am going to have to make another trip and get more silk...I don't have enough.
Title: Re: Question about backing with denim.
Post by: macbow on February 03, 2011, 10:15:00 AM
If your pieces are a little short as an option you can leave the last 6 inches or so of the tips bare.
Ron
Title: Re: Question about backing with denim.
Post by: Flyboy718 on February 03, 2011, 11:25:00 AM
What do you guys use to make the back of the bow look 'traditional' after applying the backing?  Paint I guess would be the only option.
Title: Re: Question about backing with denim.
Post by: Pat B on February 03, 2011, 12:03:00 PM
Acrylic or craft paint works well. You can also fine print tissue paper and put it down over the backing for a unique look.
 The first two are animal print tissue paper and the third is craft paint from Walmart. All of these were added over rawhide(sinew and rawhide for the painted bow)but going over linen should work the same.

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/Hannahsbow013.jpg)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/forPA088.jpg)


(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/MasseyMedicineBow002.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about backing with denim.
Post by: CaptainJ on February 06, 2011, 03:27:00 PM
How about lightweight ripstop nylon? I picked up a roll at a garage sale last summer for a buck.

CJ
Title: Re: Question about backing with denim.
Post by: Pat B on February 06, 2011, 03:35:00 PM
The nylon will work but one problem with synthetic materials they don't soak up the glue like natural fabrics do. For a cloth or paper backing you want the glue/cloth(paper) to become one homogeneous material like fiber glass does. The combo of the two materials is stronger than both components.