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Title: tanned snake skins
Post by: Andy Cooper on January 31, 2011, 09:01:00 PM
Why is it said to be a bad idea to skin a bow with tanned snake skins?  Thanks.  :dunno:
Title: Re: tanned snake skins
Post by: razorsharptokill on January 31, 2011, 09:48:00 PM
I think it is that the air dried skins are thinner(more paperlike)and conform to the surface better.
Title: Re: tanned snake skins
Post by: Steven Russell on January 31, 2011, 10:27:00 PM
I also understand that the tanning agent makes it hard to get the glue to adhere and so they may peel off from the bow easily.  It's been awhile, but I seem to remember hearing that contact cement may overcome that problem.  No first hand experience though to back that up so take it for what it's worth.

--Steve
Title: Re: tanned snake skins
Post by: Pat B on February 01, 2011, 01:00:00 AM
Tanned hides will readily absorbe moisture and with their thickness(compared to dried skins)is hard to seal well. Glycerin(sp) tanning(antifreeze) isn't actually tanning but curing and the glycerin can prevent glue adhesion. Dried skins work best for bow backing and are the easiest to prepare.
Title: Re: tanned snake skins
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on February 01, 2011, 09:50:00 AM
Pat hit on the head. Tanned skins are good for quivers and armguards and such but not for bow backing.

Stiks
Title: Re: tanned snake skins
Post by: tommy6 on February 01, 2011, 04:30:00 PM
You can do it, here is one way: Size the flesh side of skin with super glue and let dry. You may need a few coats. Than use contact cement, coat bow back and sized flesh side of skins, let dry and put em on.
But... its much easier to use dried skins. I think dried skins add less mass to the limbs.
Title: Re: tanned snake skins
Post by: SEMO_HUNTER on February 01, 2011, 06:11:00 PM
Could I step in and ask a question while you all are on the subject?

Would any of you fellas like to give a brief description of your air drying process? I may have some guys that will be looking for some snakes for me soon, and I told them just to skin, freeze, and ship as quickly as possible. Then I would take care of the rest when they arrive.

Thanks, sorry if I hijacked the post Andy but I figured that question was going to be asked sooner or later anyway.
Title: Re: tanned snake skins
Post by: vanillabear? on February 01, 2011, 06:25:00 PM
Title: Re: tanned snake skins
Post by: SEMO_HUNTER on February 01, 2011, 06:31:00 PM
Thanks VB, that's easy enough.
Title: Re: tanned snake skins
Post by: Diamondback59 on February 01, 2011, 09:56:00 PM
i like to salt them  sun dry them when tacked to a board  then  soak
em in warm water when im ready to use them and apply to the bow  brock
Title: Re: tanned snake skins
Post by: Pat B on February 01, 2011, 10:56:00 PM
I do the same as vanillabear except I use a staple gun and staple them to a sheet of plywood in my basement. It doesn't take them very long at all once you get the other tissue off.
 I don't like adding salt. If their is any salt remaining on the skin it will attract moisture, even under a finish. I don't find it necessary to salt snake skins at all...or tan them in any way.
Title: Re: tanned snake skins
Post by: DanaM on February 02, 2011, 11:27:00 AM
I was told to remove the glycerin in tanned skins that you soak them in lye and then rinse well. By lye I mean white wood ash and water.
Title: Re: tanned snake skins
Post by: K.S.TRAPPER on February 02, 2011, 12:09:00 PM
Yep, Salt's a bad idea if you plan on backing with it. Ben there done it and it works but the skins are still trying to peel off years later.

I didn't salt it a friend did I air dry mine too and never had a problem.

Tracy
Title: Re: tanned snake skins
Post by: Andy Cooper on February 04, 2011, 11:56:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by SEMO_HUNTER:
Could I step in and ask a question while you all are on the subject?

Would any of you fellas like to give a brief description of your air drying process? I may have some guys that will be looking for some snakes for me soon, and I told them just to skin, freeze, and ship as quickly as possible. Then I would take care of the rest when they arrive.

Thanks, sorry if I hijacked the post Andy but I figured that question was going to be asked sooner or later anyway.

No worries S_H! Internet forum discussions often twist and turn. I think your question was a good one!
  :bigsmyl: