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Title: Thin Ringed Osage Stave
Post by: LeeNY on January 21, 2011, 09:27:00 PM
After a short hiatus of 5 years I got back into bow building.

Got a question on rawhide backing. I've got a stave that's really nice except the rings are around 1/16th to 1/8th. I know I can get a bow out of it. But, when should I back it? Before I start bending it or later? (during tillering)

Thanks,
Lee
Title: Re: Thin Ringed Osage Stave
Post by: Diamondback59 on January 21, 2011, 10:22:00 PM
lee how long is it ? if it s got ring s good enough follow 1  ring there s ur back i never back osage  unless  it s real bad OR REAL SHORT  brock
Title: Re: Thin Ringed Osage Stave
Post by: DVSHUNTER on January 21, 2011, 10:31:00 PM
I'm with Brock. Find a ring that's an eight thick and use it.   If you really feel the need to back it do  it before bendin.
Title: Re: Thin Ringed Osage Stave
Post by: Pat B on January 22, 2011, 12:11:00 AM
I agree with the guys above. I love thin ringed osage but I'm talking 1/32" to 1/16" with knots. Then I use rawhide. If you have a clean back ring you do not need to back osage.
Title: Re: Thin Ringed Osage Stave
Post by: LeeNY on January 22, 2011, 09:01:00 AM
Well it's off to the shop. We'll see where I end up!

Thanks for the input!
Title: Re: Thin Ringed Osage Stave
Post by: KellyG on January 22, 2011, 03:12:00 PM
Man the Osage almost needs it own forum with all the osage builds going on right now. Show us pics as you go along if you can, I know I will pick something up.
Kelly
Title: Re: Thin Ringed Osage Stave
Post by: LeeNY on January 22, 2011, 04:35:00 PM
Progress on this one came to a halt. I got this stave about 6yr. ago. For shipping the person that sent me the stave did some heavy duty drawknifing to keep shipping costs down. I was chasing a ring that was suitable for the back and was really easy to follow. I chased it the entire length, no problems until I flipped it around. On the upper (we'll call it that for now)limb about mid limb it looked a little thinner than the rest of the limb. The grain took a natural dip and the individual who sent me the stave took a little to much off with the draw knife. (in case you wanted to know it flexes there and could be a problem later)

So I'm stopping right there, going to look at it ponder it and perhaps it might be my first bendy handle short bow. Although i was hoping for a 68" flat bow.

All is not lost about the same time I got this stave, I purchased one from John Scifres I've got this one shaping up nicely Pic's tomorrow (wife went to NYC with camera). It's now snow shoveling time.
Title: Re: Thin Ringed Osage Stave
Post by: Diamondback59 on January 22, 2011, 04:41:00 PM
LEE  GOOD IDEA TO STOP GET OUT UR LIL GOOSENECK SCRAPER  WORK THE LIL BENDS  FOLLOW  UR RING  IF YA HAVE TO GO DOWN A RING  AS LONG AS YA HAVE 1 GOOD RING THE LEGTH OF THE STAVE UR GOOD  POST PIC S WELL  HELP YA BROCK   PS  HOW MUCH SNOW YA GOT  ?  I GOT A LIL SQUALL  MOVED OUT WINDS DOIN 50 MPH NOW SO IN HOUSE WORKIN ON MY TRADE PROJECT
Title: Re: Thin Ringed Osage Stave
Post by: LeeNY on January 22, 2011, 06:02:00 PM
I'm down to one ring, but the draw knife work done by another left a real thin spot that bends. Since the rings are really thin from there on down. It's a mediocre stave so instead of making firewood. I'll wait, contemplate and make a bendy handle bow maybe with some sinew!
Title: Re: Thin Ringed Osage Stave
Post by: LeeNY on January 22, 2011, 06:04:00 PM
I'm going to work on the other stave from John.
Title: Re: Thin Ringed Osage Stave
Post by: George Tsoukalas on January 23, 2011, 03:08:00 PM
If you can chase you don't need to back it. My last bow's back is 1/16 in. I almost always back after long string tillering. Jawge
Title: Re: Thin Ringed Osage Stave
Post by: LeeNY on January 23, 2011, 05:36:00 PM
George sent u a PM