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Title: need advice
Post by: JEFF B on January 14, 2011, 12:29:00 PM
how do i go about making a one piece selfbow into a takedown as i need this for travel thanks. joe if ya see this chime in Bro
Title: Re: need advice
Post by: Pat B on January 14, 2011, 12:43:00 PM
Cut it in half at the center of the handle and add a sleeve take down. Ruddy just did that with a full length stave then tillered the bow. If the bow is already tillered just cut and fit the sleeve. I've never done it(yet) so take my advise with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: need advice
Post by: JEFF B on January 14, 2011, 12:45:00 PM
thanks Bro but i dont like salt that much LOL!!!! but will give it a go.
Title: Re: need advice
Post by: John Scifres on January 14, 2011, 12:51:00 PM
I've done it a couple times.  It works just fine but it's best to build from scratch with the sleeve in mind.  Retrofitting was almost as much trouble as making a new one.
Title: Re: need advice
Post by: JEFF B on January 14, 2011, 12:59:00 PM
so it can be done but with a lot of trouble  huh as i have never done that before.
Title: Re: need advice
Post by: Osagetree on January 14, 2011, 04:52:00 PM
Sorry Jeff somehow I've missed this post. Here are pics of the bow you want to retrofit.
I agree, starting a bow with a sleeve in mind is the best. Let me ponder this and get back in a little while.

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Z%20Lander%20selfbow/ZlanderCherylhandle4.jpg)
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Z%20Lander%20selfbow/ZlanderCherylhandle3.jpg)
Title: Re: need advice
Post by: JEFF B on January 14, 2011, 05:23:00 PM
thanks Brother.
Title: Re: need advice
Post by: broketooth on January 14, 2011, 05:27:00 PM
jeff, when you do the sleeve takedown, you will loosa at least 1/8 " of wood depending on 2 facters. one is the kerf of your saw . 2 is how square you are actually able to cut it from the back of the bow. now that being said. if you already have an estabilished top limb. you need to make sure it is perminently attached to the sleeve , for water proofing reasons. you need to use a brass pin for malluable reason so you can file it smooth to the steel outer sleeve. use a metal - wood 2 part epoxy for the brass sleeves to the wood. when you cut your stave  plase the brass sleeve against the edge grain of the stave half and trace the outside circufrence of the brass sleeve , you can do the rough shaping of the brass sleeve to this line. caution you need to make sur the flat part of the brass sleeve stays perpendicular to the back of the stave. if you dont your bow will take on unwanted limb twist. once you shape to the outside scribe line of the sleeve . this is where you want to slow down. start from the limb butt and get the sleeve to just fit and slowly work towards the fade until you get the brass sleeve to fit it doesnt need to be entirely smooth you. once the brass sleeve is fitted to its entire2" length/ you need to mask off the entire fade area with painters tape. apply a good coating of the five min epoxy, and slide the brass sleeve on. let it cure for 24 hrs for max hardness. keep us posted i hope this helps. ruddy
Title: Re: need advice
Post by: JEFF B on January 14, 2011, 05:41:00 PM
well thank you Rudy for that info But i have Been talking to my Buddy that made the Bow and since the handle is to small we may have a problem but he is going to ponder on it fer a while then i will re think what i am going to do as i was only doing this for travel sake other wise i would not atempt it but it was going to cost me  about $200 to $250 to bring over so i may be travling Bowless and buy a Bow when i reach my  final destination.
Title: Re: need advice
Post by: seabass on January 14, 2011, 06:15:00 PM
if you are coming to the USA Jeff,just let me know the address where you will be.i will ship one of my selfbows there ahead of time for you to use.i have them from 50 pounds up tp 59 pounds.just let me know ahead of time,steve
Title: Re: need advice
Post by: JEFF B on January 14, 2011, 07:23:00 PM
well thanks for the offer steve but i can use this as an excuse to buy another Bow  :D  opps i hope the wife dont look on here  :eek: