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Title: board bow tillering help please (more pics added)
Post by: karrow on January 07, 2011, 07:43:00 PM
so here is my red oak board bow that ive been working on and have started tillering and i think im going pretty well im taking it slow and easy but just in case i would like some advice from you trad gangers. bow specs are 68in over all 2in at the fades and pyrimid limb design with 1/2in @ the tips and 1 1/2in of set. i would like 40#s or more but i dont have a set poundage in mind (maybe a mistake). i am planning on backing with either paper or silk. any advice??? thank you.
 (http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n545/karrowp/P1010090.jpg)
 (http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n545/karrowp/P1010091.jpg)
Title: Re: board bow tillering help please (more pics added)
Post by: vanillabear? on January 07, 2011, 08:07:00 PM
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Post by: Ricky Wallace on January 07, 2011, 08:43:00 PM
Lookin good!!
Title: Re: board bow tillering help please (more pics added)
Post by: KellyG on January 07, 2011, 10:03:00 PM
looking good, you need to pick a weight. That way  you dont draw over that weight. What is it at so far?
Title: Re: board bow tillering help please (more pics added)
Post by: 1oldbowguy on January 07, 2011, 10:07:00 PM
Sure looks good, I enjoy these builds as I am going to hit one real soon.  Was looking at this weekend but a death of a close friends wife put lots of things on hold for now.
Title: Re: board bow tillering help please (more pics added)
Post by: bigcountry on January 07, 2011, 10:28:00 PM
Nice, I would be careful around that right limb right out of the fade.  Real nice job.
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Post by: Jeff Smith on January 07, 2011, 10:33:00 PM
Looks good. If you dont already have one make a tillering gizmo and learn to use paint.net. Both will be a big help untill you develop the eye for tiller. As far as weight I often go by what is comfortable as each design may feel different at the same weight.
Your on your way with this one, oh and if I was going to back it I would before doing anything else.
Jeff
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Post by: George Tsoukalas on January 10, 2011, 11:03:00 PM
Looks great! Jawge
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Post by: broketooth on January 11, 2011, 05:44:00 AM
you can easily moniter the weight using a bow scale while you are drawing the bow on the tree. bernie modified a hand held bowscale, which im currently using. it works great on the tree.i'll get a pic of it a little later. ruddy
Title: Re: board bow tillering help please (more pics added)
Post by: karrow on January 11, 2011, 07:34:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by KellyG:
looking good, you need to pick a weight. That way  you dont draw over that weight. What is it at so far?
kelly g its at 60# @ 20in so i still have sum scraping to do and have decided on 45# with a silk backing. i am currently waiting on my silk to be delivered and have made a tiller gizmo. so things are moving slow but thats just my pace. is 45 a resiable weight for a board bow? more pics and questions to come im sure thanks ereyone.
Title: Re: board bow tillering help please (more pics added)
Post by: karrow on January 22, 2011, 02:34:00 PM
ok i hope i get this posted right. so here it is again i added a silk backing. its not the best but i didnt think it was bad for my first time. what do you guys think? i also strung it to a 6in brace and i am 45#s @ 16in so i still have sum scraping to do. my question is what to do next??? sorry for all the questions but i dont want to screw this up. so heres the pics                (http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n545/karrowp/P1010002.jpg) (http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n545/karrowp/P1010001.jpg) (http://i1139.photobuck[img]http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n545/karrowp/P1010004.jpg)et.com/albums/n545/karrowp/P1010003.jpg[/IMG] (http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n545/karrowp/P1010006.jpg) (http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n545/karrowp/P1010005.jpg) (http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n545/karrowp/P1010009.jpg) (http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n545/karrowp/P1010008.jpg)
Title: Re: board bow tillering help please (more pics added)
Post by: hova on January 22, 2011, 02:38:00 PM
its lookin really good now.

if youre at your weight at 16" , youre not far off. scrape evenly and keep the gizmo handy as you go , just keep going an inch or two at a time.


most guys on here try to stay about 5# over target weight at the draw you want , that way you can slim the tips , adjust tiller if you need to , and finish sanding.


thats just my .02 ...your pace is perfect.


as far as the backing it looks good. i think art or pat b recommend taking a mill file at a consistent angle , and just cleaning the edge up like that.


-hov
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Post by: Aznboi3644 on January 22, 2011, 03:00:00 PM
only thing left is to keep scraping and keep exercising till ur at ur weight at length
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Post by: KellyG on January 22, 2011, 04:05:00 PM
It is looking good. Try to only draw it to 45# if that is your target weight. That why you never put undo stress on the limb. At least that is what they tell me,
Kelly
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Post by: macbow on January 22, 2011, 07:37:00 PM
Your really looking good.
The main thing to look out far now is that you keep the belly flat from end to end. No dishes or low spots or ripples. Use a sand paper on a block if necessary. These blemishes cause weak spots later.
Ron
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Post by: 1oldbowguy on January 22, 2011, 08:14:00 PM
Looks good to me.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on January 22, 2011, 10:14:00 PM
Looking good, but you need to address the flat spots and stay away from the mid limb on out on both limbs. Your doing right with the real string in the string groove too. That will give you the best results. Don't pull it any further down the tree till you get it bending more even. With proper tillering, you will lose more weight and get closer to your desired weight. The tillering gizmo is the best tool there is for tillering. It does not lie. After removing some wood on the flat spots, put it on the tree and pull it about 30 times after everytime you remove wood. Then lock it down to where you pull it too and use the gizmo again.

 (http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f165/ROY-CHRIS/P1010008.jpg)
Title: Re: board bow tillering help please (more pics added)
Post by: karrow on January 23, 2011, 09:56:00 AM
thanks guys thats just what i needed.                                                                                                 Roy from PA thanks for the drawing thats just what a dummy like me needs.  :knothead:    :)
Title: Re: board bow tillering help please (more pics added)
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 23, 2011, 10:03:00 PM
Your welcome.