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Title: sapwood on osage selfbow
Post by: b.glass on November 12, 2010, 02:23:00 PM
I've read about it. I know that sapwood on a yew selfbow is good and that you can strip the bark off a fresh white wood stave and make a selfbow. I have never done either of these. It seems I've read that some sapwood on osage is ok. What is your experience.

The staves I have, have darker sapwood than any others I have seen and it is hard. Below the thick sapwood the rings get quite a bit thinner.

I should post a picture, yes?
Title: Re: sapwood on osage selfbow
Post by: Osagetree on November 12, 2010, 02:53:00 PM
Here's a couple osage bows with the mostly white wood left on,,, even a little bark at the handles! These were from limbs though!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Self%20Bows/Saplingsisters8.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Self%20Bows/Saplingsisters3.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Self%20Bows/Saplingsisters4.jpg)
Title: Re: sapwood on osage selfbow
Post by: Pat B on November 12, 2010, 04:13:00 PM
Very cool bows, Joe. I love osage sapling(limb) bows!
 Bona, I have made osage bows with all sapwood, 50/50 sap/heart wood, heartwood with a few rings of sapwood and all heartwood. All made good bows. The more sapwood you use the thicker the bow will be.
Title: Re: sapwood on osage selfbow
Post by: George Tsoukalas on November 12, 2010, 06:49:00 PM
NIce bows. The best scenario is take off the sapwood. If there is not enough then get as close to the heartwood as possible as the sapwood will be stronger.  Jawge
Title: Re: sapwood on osage selfbow
Post by: Curt Brisky on November 12, 2010, 11:04:00 PM
I made a 50" Osage recurve and left a thin layer of sapwood on.  The draw weight is 65@26. It has held together for two years. No sinew just sapwood.  This years sapwood is next years heartwood so Ed Scott says.
Title: Re: sapwood on osage selfbow
Post by: Osagetree on November 13, 2010, 05:37:00 AM
Pat you're right, these bows were saplings and not limbs! Sapling sisters as matter of fact.
Title: Re: sapwood on osage selfbow
Post by: b.glass on November 13, 2010, 07:45:00 AM
I would expect a bow with sapwood to take more set. Dose making them thicker counteract this?

"Very cool bows", were exactly my thoughts Pat!
Title: Re: sapwood on osage selfbow
Post by: Osagetree on November 13, 2010, 08:15:00 AM
B.

Though these bows were only in the 45 to 50 lbs range they did not seem to take on anymore set than all heartwood osage bows. I usually make my bows around 62" and these were 66".

Here's a link to the thread done awhile back.
http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=125;t=003027;p=1
Title: Re: sapwood on osage selfbow
Post by: DVSHUNTER on November 13, 2010, 08:33:00 AM
I recently made a bow for a man in TX with thre thin layers of sapwood on it. It pulled 60@29 and was 66ntn. It shot well and took an inch and a half of set. He was pleased. I can't wait to see it once the osage darkens.
Title: Re: sapwood on osage selfbow
Post by: John Scifres on November 16, 2010, 12:15:00 PM
Wider, rather than thicker will reduce set.