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Title: My latest (80#+. BBI)
Post by: kmc06005 on August 17, 2010, 07:29:00 PM
Unstrung
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Full brace
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Handle
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Full Draw
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Dont tell my wife
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The bow is a Bamboo Backed Ipe 58 NtN 80# @26, but I'm pulling it to a little over 27. The bamboo has been backed with a mossy oak long sleeve t-shirt.

Had a little trouble with the spots around the ends of the forward handle where I clamped down the boo. I used C-clamps and they left a ring indention.

So it popped a splinter. Bob Barnes told me to wrap it and then do the other side to match. I had to fatten up the grip with a little camo cloth tape and decided to do the same to the wrapped spots.

I wasn't looking for 80# but thats where it ended up, It stacks a little the last couple inches, but its pretty smooth otherwise, quiet too.

Now I just need to figure out how to get an 800 grain arrow that'll fly.

Thanks for looking.
Title: Re: My latest (80#+. BBI)
Post by: Schmidtster on August 17, 2010, 08:18:00 PM
That bow is totally wicked. did you use a heat box when you laminated it?
Title: Re: My latest (80#+. BBI)
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 17, 2010, 08:55:00 PM
Next time pad the back of the bow with something  so the clamps don't indent the boo. Looks nice.
Title: Re: My latest (80#+. BBI)
Post by: kmc06005 on August 17, 2010, 10:03:00 PM
Schmidster - I use Urac 185 and let it set for about 24-36 hours in the shop, then take it off the form and unwrap it and let it set for another day or so inside my house.

Roy - What would you suggest? Just a scrap piece of wood? The boo's rounded back is the only thing that puzzles me with this conundrum.

Thanks for looking...
Title: Re: My latest (80#+. BBI)
Post by: Pat B on August 17, 2010, 10:31:00 PM
Maker clamp pads with bamboo scraps. The inside if the pad(concave) will conform with the outside(convex) of the boo backing. I think Eric posted pics a few months ago of these. It is his idea.
Title: Re: My latest (80#+. BBI)
Post by: Pat B on August 17, 2010, 10:32:00 PM
...oh!  By the way, cool bow. Should punch a hole in a deer for sure.  d;^)
Title: Re: My latest (80#+. BBI)
Post by: kmc06005 on August 17, 2010, 10:38:00 PM
Thanks Pat, that's a fantastic idea!
Title: Re: My latest (80#+. BBI)
Post by: Pat B on August 17, 2010, 10:40:00 PM
Do a search for Eric's thread. Lots of pics and explanation!
Title: Re: My latest (80#+. BBI)
Post by: kmc06005 on August 17, 2010, 10:47:00 PM
I'm on it.
Title: Re: My latest (80#+. BBI)
Post by: Bob Barnes on August 17, 2010, 11:00:00 PM
way to go Mike!
Title: Re: My latest (80#+. BBI)
Post by: Schmidtster on August 18, 2010, 12:18:00 AM
Thats cool I was wondering if I could get away with no heat. Also a clamping idea I've heard of glue 1/2" dense styrofoam insulation on a pice of 1x4 scrap and the styrofoam conforms a little to what your working with and provides a bit of cushion but can crackk if given to much pressure. I think I might give it a shot.
Title: Re: My latest (80#+. BBI)
Post by: kmc06005 on August 18, 2010, 12:21:00 AM
I haven't used a hot box yet. I think it speeds things up a bit, it might be worth the investment, but not worth the wait... if that makes any sense.
Title: Re: My latest (80#+. BBI)
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 18, 2010, 06:22:00 AM
Mike, just like Pat said works. I use a whole piece of boo cut out just like the boo I am gluing on the bow. I also glued a 1/8th thick piece of felt to the flat side of the boo I use for padding. I have had splinters in boo bows just like you had, because I also did not pad the clamps till I learned from that mistake.

Urac doesn't take very long to dry, 1 day would be plenty, or 2 if it makes you feel better Mike. I used to put my BBO bows in a heat box. But it doesn't take much heat to suck the moisture out of the boo, and the too hot heat box I used did just that and made the boo brittle.  

You can see the boo padding strip I use here.

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Title: Re: My latest (80#+. BBI)
Post by: jonathan creason on August 18, 2010, 08:05:00 AM
Cool bow.  What are the dimensions?  I'm getting ready to start on another BBI, and I'd like to go a little heavier.
Title: Re: My latest (80#+. BBI)
Post by: kmc06005 on August 18, 2010, 09:55:00 AM
Thanks Roy. I let the Urac dry so long, for the reason you said, It makes me feel better. Plus I don't get in too much of a hurry at glue-up because once I start sanding off the excess I can't seem to put em down.

Jonathan this piece of ipe came from a 5/4x6 board. So its about 1" wide at the fades, straight taper to 1/4 at the tips.

The handle is a 1" thick "powerlam" from red oak

58ntn

I glued in about an inch of deflex and 0 net reflex. It gives it alot of limb to play with, but does slow it down a hair. (compared to other ipe designs)
Title: Re: My latest (80#+. BBI)
Post by: chrisg on August 18, 2010, 10:42:00 AM
hmm nice bow. Rather too heavy for me..! I just put one into the hot box. Plan for two hours or so at about 60 C. Also used URAC185. I don't clamp in quite so much reflex/deflex and end up with a pretty straight bow after its shot in.URAC sets fast so one has to have everything set up nice beforehand. I am keen to see how it turns out.
chrisg