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Title: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: Osagetree on July 25, 2010, 08:06:00 AM
I'm kinda getting bored with the cross stiched handle wraps and floppy rests, although effective, I am looking to change it up a bit for a bow I've made for someone else.

I tried this one as an experiment but I don't really like it too much. Saw a sword maker do this to his handles.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Z%20Lander%20selfbow/1afirewoodfinished3.jpg)

Please take time to post pics of cool, unusual or traditional designs for wraps and rests. If we can get a bunch of pics and descriptions this might be a good thread for future reference in regards to wraps and rests!
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: Osagetree on July 25, 2010, 08:29:00 AM
A couple rest pics of mine,,, go ahead and add your pics too!

Cut in shelf and leather pad
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Untitled-8.jpg)

Thick super glue soaked leather rest & under wrap
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/IMG_0158-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: Eric Krewson on July 25, 2010, 09:00:00 AM
I roll the leather top and bottom as well as glue the leather on with no stitching. The rest is a wedge of wood glues on and shaped.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/bow%20making/newboo.jpg)
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: 4est trekker on July 25, 2010, 09:20:00 AM
PM Keenan and ask him to post some of his.  He has some really unique and striking designs.
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: c'ville on July 25, 2010, 05:10:00 PM
Here's what I did with my latest one.  The rest is an elk ivory from one of the elk my dad took before he passed.  Ill definately use one one again in the future because it works well and looks pretty cool.  Pretty good mojo too.

first time posting pics so lets see if it works

  (http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab237/cville88/bow1.jpg)

for some reason I cant get the others to resize right ill try again later
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: c'ville on July 25, 2010, 05:33:00 PM
ok I think I got the other one fixed.

(http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab237/cville88/ttt.jpg)
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: walkabout on July 25, 2010, 06:17:00 PM
one type of grip with very positive grip i like is leather strapping thats twisted in a row down the center of the handle. kinda like japanese tsuka-ito(samurai sword handle wrapping) only alot less complicated. ive used the style for a long time on various things because the twists raise and provide good grip. i actually thought about using the cabmium layer of hickory as a handle wrap, got alot of it left over from stripping my staves and have worked with it a little to see what it works well for.looks really neat when its dryed into a shape.
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: Steve B. on July 25, 2010, 11:54:00 PM
I like all of the grips in the pics above.  My next bow will be a takedown using an elk antler grip and tips.  The lower limb will be permanent in the grip with the upper limb able to pop out when unstrung.


(http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss327/SteveBush1/takedown-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: Steve B. on July 26, 2010, 12:06:00 AM
On this bow I simply spiraled some thin leather from the bottom and trapped a wedge of wood for a rest.  Simple and it really looks and works well.


(http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss327/SteveBush1/wrap.jpg)
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: PASSTHRU2 on July 26, 2010, 05:24:00 AM
I always thought checkering a selfbow handle would be neet.  shows off the wood and gives you a textured grip.  Someone just did a tutorial not to long ago.  May have been done on that other site.
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on July 26, 2010, 09:20:00 AM
Steve B. I ain't gonna lie, That elk antler idea is pretty awsome. I would never have thought about that.

Might try it myself.

Stiks
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: Thwackaddict on July 28, 2010, 01:28:00 AM
Heres one I did with a turkey spur for the rest and antler covered with elk hide for the strike plate. (http://i1041.photobucket.com/albums/b418/thwackaddict/First%20Bow%20Build/HPIM2007.jpg)    (http://i1041.photobucket.com/albums/b418/thwackaddict/First%20Bow%20Build/primitive%20archer%20pics/HPIM1973.jpg)
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: scrub-buster on July 28, 2010, 04:09:00 AM
Here is how I made my last two handles.  The leather is from my wifes old leather coat.  The top and bottom are rolled under and glued.  It is stiched on the back.  The rest is made from several pieces of thick leather glued together.

 (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/clintanders/SDC10226-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: NightHawk on July 28, 2010, 07:45:00 AM
Timely topic.  I have some electrical tape that I use at work to help pull underground cable in duct lines. This tape instead of being plastic and slick is cloth and very tacky. We use it to help keep the bulldick on the cable while we pull it in. I have also used this tape on some of my tools, especially the ones I need a good grip on. I'm thinking it would work very well as a bow grip

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/doylejmd/pics1028-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: Sam Harper on July 28, 2010, 11:23:00 AM
Here's some of mine:

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c361/wasichu/boobellytip.jpg)

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c361/wasichu/bow09.jpg)

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c361/wasichu/newcurve4-1.jpg)

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c361/wasichu/sierrahandle.jpg)

(http://poorfolkbows.com/images/aelb69.JPG)
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: Sam Harper on July 28, 2010, 11:32:00 AM
Here's a bunch done by J.D. Jones:

(http://***********.bowsite.com/TF/pics/00small14965173.JPG)
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: Adam Keiper on July 28, 2010, 09:04:00 PM
Strunkish?
(http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/Alpinbogen/WateryTart7-10005a.jpg)
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: broketooth on July 29, 2010, 06:01:00 AM
here is one i did. due to the bulbous handle,i had trouble fitting the leather. so i put the stitch on the belly side of the bow.there is no arrow shelf on the bow. the advantage to the belly stitch is to count the stitches down from the top for propper hand placement (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/osagebowpics006.jpg) the stave came from mr pat brennen.  batman and i did the finish work on it. i just gifted this bow to a young man who is really interested in trad. you should have seen the smile on his face ruddy
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: getstonedprimitivebowhunt on August 02, 2010, 11:22:00 AM
I like the look of BEAVER TAIL .I'm doing a bow now with it
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: getstonedprimitivebowhunt on August 02, 2010, 12:53:00 PM
Anyone ever use aligator...stingray...shark ... croc. skin for handles..I found a site that sells tanned scap pieces big enough i think for two bows. They also have all kind of animal hide scaps.... Thanks for the info. I think I'll try "STINGRAY" it looks cool and tough !!
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on August 03, 2010, 09:17:00 AM
I seen one a guy wrapped in snapping turtle that was awsome but don't have any pics.
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: walkabout on August 03, 2010, 10:37:00 AM
stingray is like rawhide covered in sandpaper.lol some grippy stuff. in use on sword handles the sharp parts on top of the scales are sanded off, then its soaked in water and put on and left to dry to the desired shape.
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: DCM on August 03, 2010, 10:40:00 AM
(http://home.comcast.net/~dcm4/pwpimages/jj.jpg)

  (http://home.comcast.net/~dcm4/pwpimages/dina1.JPG)

  (http://home.comcast.net/~dcm4/Old%20Bow%20Stuff/bcb1.JPG)

I favor a single wrap overlap, or ribbon wrap tucked on both ends, both scived for flush fit and an arrow shelf built up from a leather pad glued underneather depending upon the context.  Mostly cuz I don't stitch worth crap.  ;-)  And I should credit Joe Dawn for being my inspriration and unwitting mentor on the ribbon wrap and sciving thing.
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: getstonedprimitivebowhunt on August 03, 2010, 11:33:00 AM
DMC ...love them bows !!!!!! Great wraps too...
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: getstonedprimitivebowhunt on August 03, 2010, 11:35:00 AM
DMC the top two the best !!! Do you sell any ? How long are they ...What #  @ your draw ?
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: DCM on August 04, 2010, 08:09:00 AM
I've answered you twice Getstoned, unless I'm just going crazy, but don't see either of my previous posts.  No I don't sell.  Maybe that's an admin trigger word.  I won't describe the bows again in this third try, same reason.

Appretiate the compliment.
Title: Re: Selfbow Handle Wraps and Rests,,, Ideas & Design
Post by: getstonedprimitivebowhunt on August 04, 2010, 10:01:00 AM
DCM Your bows are wonderful..... I appreciate you time.... You could message if you like.