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Title: Very 1st bow build.....
Post by: Badwithabow on July 24, 2010, 11:12:00 PM
Ok guys this is my 1st ever bow build so we'll see how it goes..... Shootin for 66 in 60 @ 28

Heater box was built from pvc and a reflective insulation from home depot. 2 150 and 2 100 watts get the temp to about 145. Will this be enough?
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z152/BigBadGablues/long%20bow%20build/35351_384620117613_587972613_3816021_5967841_n.jpg)

Form was made from Melamine (MDF board with counter top type material. Each piece is exactly 3/4 so walla 2 and i'm at a dead even 1.5in.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z152/BigBadGablues/long%20bow%20build/35351_384620127613_587972613_3816023_4135873_n.jpg)

O yea and my dad gets a timber rat today so he'll go on the back!

(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z152/BigBadGablues/long%20bow%20build/38638_384620522613_587972613_3816045_1433259_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Very 1st bow build.....
Post by: Apex Predator on July 24, 2010, 11:17:00 PM
Can hardly wait for the next installment!
Title: Re: Very 1st bow build.....
Post by: Badwithabow on July 24, 2010, 11:28:00 PM
thanks marty you are my mentor in all this... I think i'm goin to name this style the Oostanaula, its a river right by my house
Title: Re: Very 1st bow build.....
Post by: walkabout on July 24, 2010, 11:36:00 PM
very cool, your form has got some great curves.that timber rattler will make a great accent on the back im sure. ill be watchingfor updates, good luck.
Title: Re: Very 1st bow build.....
Post by: Goose Gossett on July 24, 2010, 11:46:00 PM
Interested in what you use for your glue up.  Definitely looking to do something along these lines.  If you don't mind me asking what did the heat box and the form set you back?  General price range is good for me.
Title: Re: Very 1st bow build.....
Post by: Badwithabow on July 25, 2010, 12:45:00 AM
I've got about under 200 in everything... i mean everything... except the actual bow supplies....

I mean heck if you want i could scan and email ya the receipt would make a dandy shoppin list lol...

I had an AHHHH HHAAAA moment just now.... i been thinkin about the whole i've dug by having a curved riser on my form... welllllll as i thought about it i got out there and started doin some odds and ends and walla i thought about the top part of the boards i just cut my form out of... marked the middle measured off 18 inches and there ya have it a easy to do template for risers on the form...

will post pics of what im talkin about tom. i'm bout to pass out lol
Title: Re: Very 1st bow build.....
Post by: jess stuart on July 25, 2010, 09:41:00 AM
I am with Marty can't wait to see more.  Nice looking form.  Are you going to use rubber bands or clamps?
Title: Re: Very 1st bow build.....
Post by: Badwithabow on July 25, 2010, 12:46:00 PM
bands..... thanks guys... i'm really just dumb luck here no science just kinda eyeballed it til i liked it..... I made a 35 in model and drew a 1 and 2 inch line to measure refelex/deflex and went to work.
Title: Re: Very 1st bow build.....
Post by: Badwithabow on July 25, 2010, 01:55:00 PM
more pics prep work....

Got my measurements done.... and guide strips installed...

(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z152/BigBadGablues/long%20bow%20build/102_3909.jpg)


Next i measured 18 in for the riser marked it and cut it out.. I have very limited tools to use this should get me very close as far as risers go with out a lot of manual sanding.

(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z152/BigBadGablues/long%20bow%20build/102_3908.jpg)

(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z152/BigBadGablues/long%20bow%20build/102_3910.jpg)
Title: Re: Very 1st bow build.....
Post by: kennym on July 25, 2010, 08:27:00 PM
Looks like a good start Brandon!!  Keep takin pics!!  LOL
Title: Re: Very 1st bow build.....
Post by: Badwithabow on July 25, 2010, 09:29:00 PM
lol thanks kenny can't wait to get ahold of my goodies!!!
Title: Re: Very 1st bow build.....
Post by: Badwithabow on July 27, 2010, 08:21:00 PM
well kinda had a lil problem... i hope to have it fixed by tom... my dowels i cut them to 3 in and they are to short sooo i took some duct tape and thickened up the dowels and slid some 1/2 in pvc over them to add a lil strength... well see...

my goodies should be here tom.. i have a busy day, flyin to tx to drop off my son then fly back to get my hands on the bow..

something beginners should think about that i didn't and its cost me some time and sweat is to make sure your form is squared from the get go.... i've done alot of sanding and leveling yest and today to get it juuust right... and i finally just now made myself happy with it...
Title: Re: Very 1st bow build.....
Post by: Badwithabow on July 27, 2010, 11:03:00 PM
got the riser shaped what do ya'll think?

(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z152/BigBadGablues/long%20bow%20build/102_3941.jpg)

also i couldn't find any bike tires so i thought what the world this is about the same thing? I'm gonna buy 4 more and i mean you can get these boys TIGHT!!!!! with a pressure strip on top this should work... I HOPE!

(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z152/BigBadGablues/long%20bow%20build/102_3915.jpg)
Title: Re: Very 1st bow build.....
Post by: Apex Predator on July 28, 2010, 06:29:00 AM
Here are my thoughts.

-  To aid in keeping your form straight, go buy a straight pine 2X6 and glue/screw it to the bottom.  

-  I use a bunch of rubber when clamping, and would not be able to make those little stubs work for me.  Mine are 1 1/2" long on each side of the form, which is perfect.

-  The fade on the right side of your riser dips.  The left side looks great.  You will have to get your fades way thinner on the real riser, but you probably knew that.   :)  

-Make sure your marks at the end of your form allow for the tip to tip length, or it may screw you up.  My 66 mark makes a 68" long bow, since I am cutting string knocks one inch from each end.  You can always bob the tips to suit your taste after.

I'm excited for you Brandon.
Title: Re: Very 1st bow build.....
Post by: Jason Scott on July 28, 2010, 12:40:00 PM
Hey Brandon get more of those rubber clamps than you think you'll need. Also, I've had wooden dowels break on me while clamping and also during the bake in the oven. Continue on with your pvc pipe reinforcement idea.
Title: Re: Very 1st bow build.....
Post by: Jason Scott on July 28, 2010, 12:47:00 PM
On second thought, it looks like the pvc does not go all the way through the form. Rethink the peg material, Mr. Murphy says some will snap on you if you are applying the right amount of band pressure.
Title: Re: Very 1st bow build.....
Post by: Apex Predator on July 28, 2010, 02:17:00 PM
I use 1/2" oak dowels and put tremendous pressure on them.  I haven't broken one yet.  I do select them from the stack, and avoid any with lots of run-out.  I pull most of the stretch out of these rubber bands and sometimes have 5-6 wraps on each dowel.
Title: Re: Very 1st bow build.....
Post by: Badwithabow on July 28, 2010, 05:44:00 PM
yea marty great advice... ..... bought more oak dowels today i'll install them for long pegs..
Title: Re: Very 1st bow build.....
Post by: Badwithabow on July 30, 2010, 12:09:00 AM
well today was FUUNNNNNN... got my bow materials today from Kenny (awesome guy by the way) now i got to work.... cut my riser
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z152/BigBadGablues/long%20bow%20build/102_3948.jpg)

(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z152/BigBadGablues/long%20bow%20build/102_3952.jpg)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z152/BigBadGablues/long%20bow%20build/102_3962.jpg)
got to work on the sander i got borrowed from my granddad.

got the lams cleaned my a dry run and got adjusted and glued her up!! awesome can't wait to see what tom. holds.... either UPPP OR DOOOOWWWNNNNN
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z152/BigBadGablues/long%20bow%20build/102_3961.jpg)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z152/BigBadGablues/long%20bow%20build/102_3963.jpg)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z152/BigBadGablues/long%20bow%20build/102_3965.jpg)

SEEE YOU ALL IN THE MORNING!!!!
Title: Re: Very 1st bow build.....
Post by: Apex Predator on July 30, 2010, 05:28:00 AM
It's morning!  ????
Title: Re: Very 1st bow build.....
Post by: Lamey on July 30, 2010, 06:07:00 AM
Its morning here, 5 am,  get up Brandon I want to see some pics!   Youve just about inspired me to get off my duff and build myself a bow.
Title: Re: Very 1st bow build.....
Post by: Badwithabow on July 30, 2010, 06:32:00 AM
lol ok so i slept til 6 bows out of the oven..... quick lesson.... I USED WAAAAYYYYYYY TO MUCH EPOXY lol
Title: Re: Very 1st bow build.....
Post by: fish n chicks on July 30, 2010, 08:44:00 AM
Better to have too much than not enough! She's coming along great BWB. Keep us tuned in...
Title: Re: Very 1st bow build.....
Post by: Badwithabow on July 30, 2010, 10:27:00 AM
lol great news!!! I'm human... something happend to the fiberglass on the belly it domed and CRACKED!!!! so i went ahead and sanded down the limbs and kinda used it as a practice run..... i dunno what happened i've got a 30lber to build to sooo i reckon i'll get ahead and get started on her tonight....
Title: Re: Very 1st bow build.....
Post by: Lamey on July 31, 2010, 09:29:00 AM
dang hate to hear about the glass, what do you think happened?