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Title: best grain orientaion for boards
Post by: razorsharptokill on July 19, 2010, 09:48:00 AM
Quarter or flat sawn on Osage boards that will be backed?
Title: Re: best grain orientaion for boards
Post by: Pat B on July 19, 2010, 01:09:00 PM
Quarter sawn is best. Edge grain or biased grain work well too. I've never tried flat grain but that is just like using a stave.
Title: Re: best grain orientaion for boards
Post by: razorsharptokill on July 19, 2010, 02:14:00 PM
That is what I thought I had read. These boards go from edge grain to quarter sawn on the other end pretty much.

Looking down the sides of the boards I see some wavey grain or run outs. Hope these arent too much of an issue.
Title: Re: best grain orientaion for boards
Post by: Pat B on July 19, 2010, 02:51:00 PM
Some run offs are OK if they are not too steep. Wavy grain can be a problem. Backing will help alleviate both problems.
Title: Re: best grain orientaion for boards
Post by: razorsharptokill on July 19, 2010, 02:56:00 PM
Some of the grain is really wavey. Would raw hide be better to back with than hickory or boo in this case?
Title: Re: best grain orientaion for boards
Post by: walkabout on July 19, 2010, 03:02:00 PM
if you can work around the grain running off the sides you would essentially have a flat grained board. i saw this explained in TBB, not sure which volume though. basically you lay out the profile of the bow on the board to avoid the grain runoffs. itd probably be best to use something like a 4 inch wide board to really get the most out of it. for instance if the grain runs off on the right side on one end you would lay your dimensions out toward the left side of that end, or simply cut the runoffs off and work with what you have left over. with a 2 inch wide board this probably wouldnt work if it was too bad. hope this explanation is understandable.
Title: Re: best grain orientaion for boards
Post by: Pat B on July 19, 2010, 03:28:00 PM
For the wavy grain I would go with hickory or boo. Wavy grain can be tricky!  Can you post pics?
Title: Re: best grain orientaion for boards
Post by: razorsharptokill on July 19, 2010, 03:36:00 PM
I should have been clearer. The EDGE of the boards is wavey. I'll get some tonight and post them. These boards are 1.5" wide by 7/8 thick I believe.
Title: Re: best grain orientaion for boards
Post by: Pat B on July 19, 2010, 04:37:00 PM
I'd go 1 3/8" at the fades and out 6" then taper to 1/2" tips(to be reduced later). 64" to 66" for a 28" draw. Glue in 3" of reflex with the hickory or boo backing. You can easily make a bow of 60#@28"
Title: Re: best grain orientaion for boards
Post by: George Tsoukalas on July 20, 2010, 09:47:00 PM
All board cuts will make a bow. Be sure the grain is straight. More on my site. Goodnight. Jawge
Title: Re: best grain orientaion for boards
Post by: razorsharptokill on July 20, 2010, 09:58:00 PM
Almost all the boards are like this or quarter sawn on the other end.
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/keyman/CIMG1614.jpg)

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/keyman/CIMG1604.jpg)

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/keyman/CIMG1611.jpg)
Title: Re: best grain orientaion for boards
Post by: Pat B on July 21, 2010, 12:00:00 AM
Back that with hickory or boo and make yourself a fine hunting bow. That is the grain(end) orientation I like for backed bows. Being that it is backed the grain violations shouldn't effect anything.
Title: Re: best grain orientaion for boards
Post by: red hill on July 21, 2010, 02:46:00 AM
Razorsharp, the edge of my board was extremely wavy. I feel that is what caused the breakage.
Stan
Title: Re: best grain orientaion for boards
Post by: Tom Leemans on July 21, 2010, 09:44:00 AM
I agree with Pat. I have made boo backed bows from boards like that. Take your time tillering and excercise it a lot.
Title: Re: best grain orientaion for boards
Post by: razorsharptokill on July 21, 2010, 10:31:00 AM
Ok good because I sought out this orientation in all the boards I bought.

I have hickory and bamboo for backing.
Title: Re: best grain orientaion for boards
Post by: red hill on July 22, 2010, 04:22:00 PM
Razorsharp, my board looked like the 2nd and 3rd photos you posted.  I wish I hadn't flexed that limb at all before backing.
Stan