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Title: "Two Tips"
Post by: Pat B on July 07, 2010, 11:29:00 PM
This is a bow I built 2 years ago and was going to be my primary hunting bow. I had bought a nice osage stave to build a bow for a friend. When I got it home I split out 3 staves from the one and this was the second best piece of the 3. At this point the wood was 1 month off the stump. Shortly after I began building this bow. When completed she pulled 47#@26" and shot well. After a hundred or so shots I noticed frets in her belly. I'm sure it is because I rushed the drying process. the wood had less than 3 months to dry.
I unstrung her and decided to repair her down the road. David Knight(primalneedarchery) gave me two tapered Argentine osage slats to make the repairs. I ground the belly flat removing the frets in the process and added the slats using Urac. I retillered this bow and christened her "Two Tips".  
  She is 60"t/t static recurve tips and bends slightly through the handle at full draw. She has choke cherry bark backing and pulls 55#@26". You can see the different color of the Argentine osage on the belly pic.
 One of the original tip overlays had come off. Instead of trying to match it I decided to add a bison horn overlay instead...hense "Two Tips"!
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/TwoTips002.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/TwoTips003.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/TwoTips004.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/TwoTips006.jpg)
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Post by: Pat B on July 07, 2010, 11:34:00 PM
I also opted to make this bow so I could shoot it no matter which tip was up. Here are a few pics of the recurves and tips.
original upper tip...
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/TwoTips010.jpg)
new bison horn tip overlay
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/TwoTips011.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/TwoTips009.jpg)
string groove in recurve
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/TwoTips005.jpg)
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Post by: Thwackaddict on July 08, 2010, 01:09:00 AM
Pat I really like those static tips.Do you use tung oil as you heat em?
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Post by: walkabout on July 08, 2010, 01:43:00 AM
another amazing bow pat. i always look forward to seeing your latest posts.
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Post by: Osagetree on July 08, 2010, 04:43:00 AM
Excellent save Pat! I'll have to remember that one! I have some slats of US osage,,, now I know what I need them for.
I have never had osage fret but if I ever do I now know how to fix it.
Really a good looking bow you made there!
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Post by: ranger 3 on July 08, 2010, 07:38:00 AM
Love it Pat, you always amaze me with your talent
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Post by: SteveD on July 08, 2010, 07:50:00 AM
Great Bow Pat. Very Nice work
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Post by: Shaun on July 08, 2010, 08:03:00 AM
Very cool! Did you have to lean that one in the corner for a while or did the repair/save come right away? Love the black & white tips and the choice or up/down.
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Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on July 08, 2010, 08:42:00 AM
Nice Pat! those slats actually look pretty cool.
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Post by: kmc06005 on July 08, 2010, 10:36:00 AM
Gorgeous bow Pat.
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Post by: AZ_Shooter on July 08, 2010, 10:58:00 AM
Great job Pat!  Two tips has tons of character, and is beautiful to boot.
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Post by: ChristopherO on July 08, 2010, 11:09:00 AM
Excellent bow and repair job.  I love the cherry backing you applied to finish it out.  Great job.

I've made two recurve that can be shot either way.  There is defineately a preference, though, on which limbs shoots better up top.  Have you experienced this with Two Tips?
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Post by: Apex Predator on July 08, 2010, 11:24:00 AM
Wow!  I wish I could do that!
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Post by: tradbower on July 08, 2010, 11:33:00 AM
Great Job Pat!!!!  Like Apex said ,Wish I had that talent!
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Post by: Dan Landis on July 08, 2010, 11:57:00 AM
Wow!  Great save, love the way the two colors of osage come together.  My mistakes usually end up as firewood or kid's bows.
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Post by: Bert Frelink on July 08, 2010, 12:05:00 PM
Pat,
Congratulations!!!!
That is some mighty fine work>
 :notworthy:    :notworthy:    :notworthy:  
Bert
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Post by: Swissbow on July 08, 2010, 12:41:00 PM
Awesome job, Pat ! You sure know how to build nice looking bows.

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Andy
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Post by: twitchstick on July 08, 2010, 12:50:00 PM
That is a great looking bow Pat. Someday maybe I can make something that nice.
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Post by: frank bullitt on July 08, 2010, 08:17:00 PM
That is one of the finest looking 'curves I have seen! I think Nels would give the nod!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Pat B on July 08, 2010, 11:37:00 PM
I was really bummed when the original bow fretted. She was exiled to the "corner..." for nearly 2 years. Everyone needs a "corner of shame" for those bows that just won't turn out right. You would be amazed how much more you know about wood bow building after a few years so those screw ups can sometimes be turned into reliable bows.
Dan, firewood will keep you warm for a few minutes at best. A rejuvenated bow will make you warm and fuzzy for years to come!!!
 Thwack, The handle wrap is hemp cord(from Walmart) set in Massey Finish...and I use olive oil and a heat gun for the recurves.
 Joe, this is only the second osage bow that has fretted on me in many years. I'm convinced it was the "raw", uncured wood that was the culprit.
 Christopher, The original top limb(elk antler overlay) is #1 but by being able to the switch upper limb I believe the stresses are evened out even more so the life of the bow should be extended.
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Post by: DVSHUNTER on July 09, 2010, 09:03:00 AM
sweet bow pat. Ilm glad the bow trade got you making... Or at least remakin bows again.
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Post by: Shaun on July 09, 2010, 09:15:00 AM
Another vote for the "corner of shame". A selfbow is seldom all the way gone unless its busted in two, I even keep those as learning tools.

Robert Frost said, "A poem is never finished, only abandoned."

I find building bows comes in flourishes. There is too much art involved to do it if you are not in the mood.
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Post by: Ricker on July 09, 2010, 05:26:00 PM
Wow Pat,
That is a nice lookin' bow.  Great work.
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Post by: red hill on July 09, 2010, 05:57:00 PM
Pat, as a science teacher I tell my students not to throw mistakes away. Keep them around so you will know what you did wrong to begin with and don't make the same mistakes over and over.
Stan
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Post by: Pat B on July 09, 2010, 11:39:00 PM
Stan that is excellent advice for your students. Most of what I have learned has been the "hard way". Growing up A.D.D.(before they knew what it was, I'm almost 60)I had to learn my way. I've been at wood bow building for 25 years at least and ruined lots of excellent bow wood to get where I am today. Lots of those mistakes I kept and a few ended up like this bow...but I learned from each and every one!
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Post by: 2treks on July 10, 2010, 10:05:00 PM
That is very nice Pat,Way to go.
Chuck
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Post by: Pat B on July 10, 2010, 10:48:00 PM
Thanks Chunk. I was happy to see her come around!
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Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on July 10, 2010, 11:24:00 PM
Yeah DVS I think it got alot of fellers to shaving again and got some started and hooked LOL

Awsome bow Pat!