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Title: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: fish n chicks on June 15, 2010, 11:09:00 AM
Finally got my bow finished up. Hope who gets it likes it as much as I liked making her. Named it Purple Passion for obvious reasons, and she goes in the mail today. 68" ntn, and pulls 45# @ 27". Sorry no tiller pic cause I was alone but she's a sexy thang. Ended up with about 1" of set. Also made the best string i've made yet, so this baby is ready to shoot where you look. We were hitting groups in the dark with this thing!

  (http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab283/jonnoocha/Bowyer%20Stuff/Purple%20Passion/IMG_4148.jpg)

  (http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab283/jonnoocha/Bowyer%20Stuff/Purple%20Passion/IMG_4149.jpg)

  (http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab283/jonnoocha/Bowyer%20Stuff/Purple%20Passion/IMG_4150.jpg)

  (http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab283/jonnoocha/Bowyer%20Stuff/Purple%20Passion/IMG_4152.jpg)

  (http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab283/jonnoocha/Bowyer%20Stuff/Purple%20Passion/IMG_4153.jpg)

  (http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab283/jonnoocha/Bowyer%20Stuff/Purple%20Passion/IMG_4154.jpg)

  (http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab283/jonnoocha/Bowyer%20Stuff/Purple%20Passion/IMG_4156-1.jpg)

Hope this girl provides lots of fun for her new owner. He should be getting it in about 8-10 days.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on June 15, 2010, 11:15:00 AM
Wow Fish! That is one good looking board bow. Love the grip and tips.

Stiks
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: tradbower on June 15, 2010, 01:01:00 PM
Now that bow is just about as good looking as your profile picture.      :bigsmyl:
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Post by: ranger 3 on June 15, 2010, 01:20:00 PM
COOL, I second what tradbower said.
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Post by: Trux Turning on June 15, 2010, 03:52:00 PM
That's one nice looking bow!!
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Post by: Osagetree on June 15, 2010, 05:07:00 PM
Best looking board bow I have ever seen!
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Post by: red hill on June 15, 2010, 07:58:00 PM
Beatiful bow, Fish!  
Stan
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: UnderControl16 on June 15, 2010, 08:04:00 PM
That is very cool. So some questions... Are the tips functioning? Did you just glue on layers of wood to make the recurve part?
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: kodiakkid on June 15, 2010, 08:07:00 PM
Sweet lookin bow!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Rich Evans on June 15, 2010, 11:26:00 PM
nice bow, love the tips
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Post by: Pat B on June 15, 2010, 11:49:00 PM
Very nice bow! No chance of a full draw pic?
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Post by: Swissbow on June 16, 2010, 12:17:00 AM
Cool looking bow ! Love those purple accents at the tips and the riser. Well done !

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Andy
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: walkabout on June 16, 2010, 01:44:00 AM
very nice well done.
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: DesertFox on June 16, 2010, 04:34:00 AM
Oh that is so cool! I have to try a handle like that! Well, not EXACTLY like that... that would be like stealing  :p

Seriously though, stuff like this makes me realize how much I have to learn.
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: The Butcher on June 16, 2010, 06:14:00 AM
nice looking bow, I'd like to fling a few out of her.
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Post by: SteveD on June 16, 2010, 07:34:00 AM
Nice Bow. Definitely different
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Post by: Apex Predator on June 16, 2010, 11:14:00 AM
Unique and beautiful bow!  The best of it's type I have seen as well!  Great job!
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Post by: longbowhntr on June 16, 2010, 11:51:00 AM
Well done!!
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: fish n chicks on June 16, 2010, 12:38:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by UnderControl16:
That is very cool. So some questions... Are the tips functioning? Did you just glue on layers of wood to make the recurve part?
That is pretty much exactly what I did. I basically took the knowledge gained from 4est's build a long and added my own flavoring. As far as the very tip end is concerned, they are not functional outside of making the bow about 2" longer overall and making it sexier   :p   This layering pattern was an experiment and I like how it turned out but will use a denser wood for the tips next time for durability. Thanks for checking her out!
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: fish n chicks on June 16, 2010, 12:41:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Pat B:
Very nice bow! No chance of a full draw pic?
Unfortunately only if the new owner takes one. I was in a hurry to take pics and was also by myself and didn't get one. Which I regret. Tiller pics are the best part! btw pat love your tradbow bro. it's freakin awesome!
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: fish n chicks on June 16, 2010, 12:52:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by DesertFox:
Oh that is so cool! I have to try a handle like that! Well, not EXACTLY like that... that would be like stealing   :p  

Seriously though, stuff like this makes me realize how much I have to learn.
I'm a firm believer that ergonomics promote finer shooting. And i'm also a believer that if it's on this site, it's cause we're sharing knowledge, so use it if you like, just be prepared for A LOT of rasping and filing and sanding... which is pretty much par for any bow lol
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: fish n chicks on June 16, 2010, 12:54:00 PM
Thanks again for the pat on the back ya'll. I'm really excited cause this is my fourth bow  since learning in january and I don't see myself stopping anytime soon. I figured I'd start with one and see where it went but now I just want to hang in the shop all dang day!
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: formerbutcher on June 16, 2010, 01:06:00 PM
Sweet bow fish n chicks !
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Post by: NEProf on June 16, 2010, 03:05:00 PM
What kind of wood did you use? I agree, one of the nicest looking board bows I have seen.
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: fish n chicks on June 17, 2010, 10:10:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by NEProf:
What kind of wood did you use? I agree, one of the nicest looking board bows I have seen.
Thank you! I used a red oak 1 x 4 from home depot and 1/8" x 3 & 1/2" x 3 x 24" long purpleheart from woodcraft.
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: scottm on June 17, 2010, 11:00:00 AM
Beatiful bow, Fish!
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: Boswell on June 20, 2010, 01:28:00 PM
Well guy, I got a big long cardboard tube in the mail yesterday morning. Could not wait to open it up to see what was in there. As soon as I got the end cut off the tube my heart began to sink. I seen the tip was broken.
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u257/Boudreaux_Boz/Longbow/TipOne.jpg)
pulled it out and got it unpacked and notice that the other tip was also busted.  :(
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u257/Boudreaux_Boz/Longbow/Tip2.jpg)
Neither of these were due to lack of packing, It was packed up very well.
Made for a bad day at work yesterday after seeing that fist thing in the morning.
My question is would I be able to glue them back on?
They would be just like tip overlays would they not?
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u257/Boudreaux_Boz/Longbow/Fit1.jpg)
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u257/Boudreaux_Boz/Longbow/Fit2.jpg)

Very pretty bow, bad deal that she was broken in shipping.

Boswell
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on June 20, 2010, 04:12:00 PM
Boswell,

I hate to see that man. I wonder if you could maybe grind the oak overlay off and put some new tips on it. I wonder if maybe Fish would be willing to do this for you.

I'm sure he is gonna be heart broke when he see's this post.

I bet it is not lost though, somebody will be along with some sound advice.

Stiks
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: kodiakkid on June 20, 2010, 05:54:00 PM
Man that's a bummer. I hate it for ya brother. Perhaps you could cut in more string grooves narrow the tips back down and still have a sweet bow. I'm not sure how they would hold up glued on unless you cut new grooves in. Maybe someone with more experience than myself will chime in. Hope you can figure something out. Paul<><
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: Osagetree on June 20, 2010, 06:41:00 PM
That can be repaired or re-shaped. Either one, in my opinion!
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: Pat B on June 20, 2010, 07:55:00 PM
Looks like the grain was short and at too steep of an angle. Probably would have been fine if the shipper had handled it properly.  It should be easy enough to repair by removing the overlay(grinding or rasp) above the purpleheart and adding a new overlay.
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: fish n chicks on June 21, 2010, 09:54:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Pat B:
Looks like the grain was short and at too steep of an angle. Probably would have been fine if the shipper had handled it properly.  It should be easy enough to repair by removing the overlay(grinding or rasp) above the purpleheart and adding a new overlay.
What does "grain was short and too steep of an angle" mean?

How the tips broke off the way they did doesn't even make sense unless the tube was crushed at the ends.
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: fish n chicks on June 21, 2010, 10:02:00 AM
Bobby, as I told you in our pm's, the news made me sick to my stomach. It ruined my day and has certainly left me wanting to make this right. From looking at the pics, i've come up with a few suggestions.

First, glue them back on and reshape the tip if needed.

Second, reshape the bow tips where they brok off, file new string grooves, give me NTN length and I will make you a new string.

or

Send it back to me and I will either repair it if it's worth it, or replace the bow.

Bottom line, you not getting a fully funtioning thing of beauty out of this trade from me is NOT an option.

Please let me know what you decide to do so I can stop making myself sick about this.
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on June 21, 2010, 05:45:00 PM
Good on you Fish.

Don't be sick over it bud, stuff happens and I'm sure it will be fine.
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: Pat B on June 21, 2010, 05:55:00 PM
I'm not criticizing the way you made it but see how short the break is. It probably got slammed on that end and that's what broke the tip. With the grain running the full length of the overlay it wouldn't break through like that. Under normal use it wouldn't have been a problem but you always have to consider the carrier and how they handle the packages.
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: Osagetree on June 21, 2010, 08:51:00 PM
Way to step up Fish!

No need to fell ill, that is a sweet bow and should be an easy fix. This was the carriers fault as I feel without that the bow would have held under normal use.

I never cared for board bows before but, this is the best looking board bow I have ever seen!
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: Boswell on June 21, 2010, 10:12:00 PM
Fish,
What pat said is what I'm sure happened. The package shows no damage at all. What I am thinking about doing is just try and glue them back on and see if they will hold. If not, I would like to send it back to you, to have it fixed. I am not doing this because I think it was your fault or anything. I am doing this because of the amazing craftsman ship of the bow. The bow is stunning. I would love to see the amazing bowyer that built it finish it. I would pay for shipping both ways. I just feel that I could never match the skill that you put into that bow.

If I glue the tips back on, what glue would you guys suggest?
Boswell
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: John Scifres on June 21, 2010, 10:41:00 PM
That SUCKS!  Way too cool of a bow not to fix.  I'd go with a CA (cyanoacrylate) superglue.  Get the name brand stuff.  I like Loctite 407.
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: fish n chicks on June 22, 2010, 12:04:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Pat B:
I'm not criticizing the way you made it but see how short the break is. It probably got slammed on that end and that's what broke the tip. With the grain running the full length of the overlay it wouldn't break through like that. Under normal use it wouldn't have been a problem but you always have to consider the carrier and how they handle the packages.
Sorry Pat I guess I was a little uneasy about the news of the tips. What would you suggest I do to avoid such a problem? Should I alternate the grain's direction prior to glue-up? I have considered it for aesthetic purposes but I was afraid they'd be more inclined to break for sure that way. Or basically this is an isolated incident and I keep doing what I do?
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: fish n chicks on June 22, 2010, 12:09:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Boswell:
Fish,
What pat said is what I'm sure happened. The package shows no damage at all. What I am thinking about doing is just try and glue them back on and see if they will hold. If not, I would like to send it back to you, to have it fixed. I am not doing this because I think it was your fault or anything. I am doing this because of the amazing craftsman ship of the bow. The bow is stunning. I would love to see the amazing bowyer that built it finish it. I would pay for shipping both ways. I just feel that I could never match the skill that you put into that bow.

If I glue the tips back on, what glue would you guys suggest?
Boswell
Well I would suggest whatever glue they use to hold NASA space shuttles together but that stuff might be hard to come by. I used TBIII for the glue up but you may want to try the powerful stuff like John suggested.

If that doesn't work or if you don't even want to mess with it please send it back to me and I promise to make it right.
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: fish n chicks on June 22, 2010, 12:11:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Osagetree:
Way to step up Fish!

No need to fell ill, that is a sweet bow and should be an easy fix. This was the carriers fault as I feel without that the bow would have held under normal use.

I never cared for board bows before but, this is the best looking board bow I have ever seen!
Thanks Osage!! That is a HUGE compliment!!
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Post by: recurvecody on June 22, 2010, 06:35:00 PM
dang it brings a tear to my eye, very nice so much character.
 :pray:
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Post by: sulphur on June 23, 2010, 09:11:00 AM
I have to agree with the easy fix.  In fact i would think the whole job would not take more than a few hours.  I think a sideview of the break is in order for a better look  at the break.  I think a just grinding off the overlay and flatten the last 4" of the tips and glue on a new piece of wood.  Like Mr Scifries said good CA (superglue) will do great and dry within 10 minutes.  Great looking Bow!!!  Easily fixed.
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: sulphur on June 23, 2010, 09:15:00 AM
Looking back at the picks PatB is right about the grain being steep.  The grain of the bow itself looks near perfect, but the overlay is not.  like this \\\\\\\\.  Grinding off the overlay and starting over should work great.  I got to say again what a sweet bow!!  Fish you have a great touch for the fine details.
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: fish n chicks on June 23, 2010, 10:59:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by sulphur:
Looking back at the picks PatB is right about the grain being steep.  The grain of the bow itself looks near perfect, but the overlay is not.  like this \\\\\\\\.  Grinding off the overlay and starting over should work great.  I got to say again what a sweet bow!!  Fish you have a great touch for the fine details.
Thanks for the help and the pat on the back sulphur. Now I gotta figure out how to make them last!
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: fish n chicks on June 23, 2010, 11:03:00 AM
Boswell,

Not sure if you've tried fixing her yet, but, after much thought, I'd like you to mail her back to me. I will either repair it to a point that i'm ok with or make you a new one. And I would only ask you to ship it to me, not pay for both ways.

I'm sorry again about all this bro. This is not at all how I imagined my bow trade to go....
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Post by: red hill on June 23, 2010, 11:47:00 AM
Man, I agree with everone else, the bow should be repairable. And it is still a beautiful bow! Great work, Fish.
Stan
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: Boswell on June 23, 2010, 06:54:00 PM
Fish,
I havent had a chance to try and fix it yet, due to work. If you want me to I would gladly ship it back to you to let you fix it if that is what you what to do.
Boswell
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: fish n chicks on June 23, 2010, 11:19:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Boswell:
Fish,
I havent had a chance to try and fix it yet, due to work. If you want me to I would gladly ship it back to you to let you fix it if that is what you what to do.
Boswell
If you can, I would like you to ship it back to me. I really want to make this girl shoot for you. I will also take care of the shipping. There is no reason you should have to pay for it when you should just be shooting the bow right now.
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: Boswell on June 24, 2010, 09:30:00 PM
Fish,
She is packed up and will be out in the mail tomorrow afternoon.
Boswell
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: fish n chicks on June 25, 2010, 10:20:00 AM
Thanks Bobby. I'm REALLY sorry you had to go through this with our swap, but I promise you will get a mean ass bow out of this in the end. Thanks again for helping me make this right bro.
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Post by: fish n chicks on July 07, 2010, 10:46:00 AM
Well Bos I got her strung up and shooting again. I know you were hoping for a 50# bow but she finished up at 46# @ 28". I should be getting her in the mail today or tomorrow hopefully.

 (http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab283/jonnoocha/IMG_4160.jpg)
Title: Re: Fixed up your tradbow Boswell...
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on July 07, 2010, 11:01:00 AM
Looks good Fish
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Post by: DVSHUNTER on July 09, 2010, 08:40:00 PM
very nice detail fish
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Post by: Boswell on August 03, 2010, 08:19:00 PM
Fish,
I got it glued back up and strung it up and pulled it on the tiller tree for a while then shot it few times its holding up great, smooth drawing good shooting bow. I ll post up some pictures when I get a chance.
Thanks alot again,
Boswell