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Title: removing a twist
Post by: gilbarbarian on January 26, 2010, 12:01:00 PM
Any advice on removing a twist in my piece of osage.  I thought about using dry heat.  I've worked the flatbow down to its shape and have done some tillering.  It is bending only a little.  Is there a form I should build?  As you can tell it's my first bow
Title: Re: removing a twist
Post by: Art B on January 26, 2010, 01:42:00 PM
Use dry heat if no serious knots are in the area to be straightened. A padded vise will work better than a form for removing limb twist IMO. Just heat the wood until hot, but no scorching, and twist a little further than you want and then bring back to straight. If done properly, it'll hold that postion as the wood cools down without having to clamp in place. ART
Title: Re: removing a twist
Post by: George Tsoukalas on January 26, 2010, 01:52:00 PM
Is the stave naturally twisted? Jawge
Title: Re: removing a twist
Post by: John Scifres on January 26, 2010, 02:51:00 PM
A heat gun, a caul (form), a gentle touch with the gun and about 30 minutes and you can make osage do whatever you want it to.
Title: Re: removing a twist
Post by: DVSHUNTER on January 26, 2010, 08:31:00 PM
I put cooking oil on mine to help keep me from scorching it. You don't have to,but I think it helps.
Title: Re: removing a twist
Post by: George Tsoukalas on January 26, 2010, 10:54:00 PM
If it is a slight natural twist don't worry about it. If you caused it by uneven wood removal then remove wood from the side that is not twisting. Jawge
Title: Re: removing a twist
Post by: gilbarbarian on January 26, 2010, 11:59:00 PM
Thanks Jawge,  I just checked both sides and the side not twisting is much larger. live and learn
Title: Re: removing a twist
Post by: DVSHUNTER on January 27, 2010, 10:25:00 AM
that stave had some natural twist in it. As it was the last time I saw it, it should heat out with a little clamping in your bench. Have a game plan going in. Some string helps keep it in place while it cools to.
Title: Re: removing a twist
Post by: George Tsoukalas on January 27, 2010, 01:53:00 PM
LOL. Yup, that's the way I learned. Now I look after each 20-30 swipes to make sure wood removal is even. I also can check by running my hand over it. The bowyer that tillers only with eyesight is 1/5 the bowyer he could be.  :)  Jawge
Title: Re: removing a twist
Post by: gilbarbarian on January 27, 2010, 06:55:00 PM
(http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af196/gilbarbarian/osage%20bow/osagebow022.jpg)
(http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af196/gilbarbarian/osage%20bow/osagebow020.jpg)
(http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af196/gilbarbarian/osage%20bow/osagebow021.jpg)
Title: Re: removing a twist
Post by: gilbarbarian on January 28, 2010, 09:49:00 AM
a little further? (http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af196/gilbarbarian/osagebow023.jpg)
Title: Re: removing a twist
Post by: John Scifres on January 28, 2010, 10:04:00 AM
Your handle/riser is too long.

Green means go.

Get rid of the Tiller stick and use a pulley system tiller tree instead.  You'll get a lot less set that way.  Only bend it long enough to tell you your next move.  

(http://sticknstring.webs.com/photos/Old-Bowmaking-Pics/gilley1.jpg)
Title: Re: removing a twist
Post by: gilbarbarian on January 28, 2010, 02:47:00 PM
John whats a pulley system look like   jeff
Title: Re: removing a twist
Post by: gilbarbarian on January 28, 2010, 03:38:00 PM
(http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af196/gilbarbarian/osagebow025.jpg)took the grip down some
Title: Re: removing a twist
Post by: gilbarbarian on January 28, 2010, 04:04:00 PM
(http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af196/gilbarbarian/osage%20bow/osagebow026.jpg)not sure if I'm done or not
Title: Re: removing a twist
Post by: John Scifres on January 28, 2010, 04:25:00 PM
Here's one I found on Jawge's site.

 (http://georgeandjoni.home.comcast.net/~georgeandjoni/longstring0007.jpg)

It can be like this where you put it in your vise.  It is basically a 2X4 with a radle at the top.  There is a pulley mounted on the bottom of the 2x4.  You runa rope with a hook through the pulley and attach to the bowstring.  Pull the rope to see the bow bend.
Title: Re: removing a twist
Post by: gilbarbarian on January 30, 2010, 10:41:00 AM
(http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af196/gilbarbarian/osage%20bow/osagebow032.jpg)I think it is done. missed my weight though was shooting for 65# and got around 50 at 28" draw.  Thanks for all the help guys. jeff
Title: Re: removing a twist
Post by: Osagetree on January 30, 2010, 11:06:00 AM
Jeff, looks like it turned out great! How are the specs?
Title: Re: removing a twist
Post by: gilbarbarian on January 30, 2010, 11:16:00 AM
Thanks,66" from nock to nock around 50# at 28"
Title: Re: removing a twist
Post by: wildcat hunter on January 30, 2010, 03:31:00 PM
I have had several Osage pieces that were twisted. I just lay them on our woodstove for a 1/2 hour to an hour and then clamp the handle in the vice with a Cressent wrench on the limb. I twist it just beyond the "center and tie it down with bailer twine till its cooled. So far its worked ok.