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Title: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: Osagetree on January 06, 2010, 07:26:00 PM
Bowyers, beginners and wood hacks like me, show us your Knots!

Challenge: Post some pictures of knots you are working on or have worked into a functionable weapon.
Feel free to provide a description or any direction you feel is needed or just photos you've found of knots on selfbows. The intent here is to show the possibilities, the hard work done and to provide incentive for others.
Some may learn something from this, some may gain confidence in a knotted up old stave, someone like me may get a bit more motivated and some will just enjoy the photo's!
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on January 06, 2010, 07:46:00 PM
Oh yeah! this oughta be good   :bigsmyl:  
I'll have to get my camera out.
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: Pat B on January 06, 2010, 11:21:00 PM
This is a yew selfbow I made for last years hunting. It is still my go to bow now. 47#@26"
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/forPA003.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/forPA004.jpg)
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: ranger 3 on January 07, 2010, 11:07:00 AM
Heres one of my frist Osage bows, it shoots great the hole goes about half way through 50@28 66"

  (http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm216/ranger500us/IMG_0786.jpg)
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: Dano on January 07, 2010, 02:12:00 PM
Here's a couple, sometimes they take you in a different direction.
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/dlgren/Archery/Bows/knot002.jpg)
the belly side
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/dlgren/Archery/Bows/knot004.jpg)
This one was in the handle of a bendy handled bow
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/dlgren/Archery/Bows/shortbow008.jpg)
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: Osagetree on January 07, 2010, 07:02:00 PM
Bow with pin knot on the edge of the lower limb
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Osagetree/IMG_0237.jpg)

A couple dozen shots later
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Osagetree/IMG_0244.jpg)

Close up,,, sorry it's blury
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Osagetree/IMG_0243.jpg)

A little more wood along the edge around the pin not may have prevented this break.
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: Osagetree on January 07, 2010, 07:17:00 PM
Big punky center knot
  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Kens%20bow/kensbows11.jpg)

Back - Digging it out
  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Kens%20bow/kensbows15.jpg)

Belly - digging out & all the way through
  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Kens%20bow/kensbows17.jpg)

  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Kens%20bow/kensbows18.jpg)

  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Kens%20bow/kensbows114.jpg)
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: Osagetree on January 07, 2010, 07:19:00 PM
Side
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Kens%20bow/kensbows111.jpg)

Back
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Kens%20bow/kensbows115.jpg)

Belly
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Kens%20bow/kensbows119.jpg)

On the tree
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Kens%20bow/IMAG0001.jpg)

Knot finished bow strung
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Kens%20bow/IMAG0017.jpg)

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Kens%20bow/IMAG0013.jpg)

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Kens%20bow/IMAG0005.jpg)

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Kens%20bow/IMAG0006.jpg)
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: Osagetree on January 07, 2010, 07:22:00 PM
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: Osagetree on January 07, 2010, 07:26:00 PM
This was the natural set in the stave and ended up with about 3" of follow

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Kens%20bow/kensbows117.jpg)
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on January 07, 2010, 07:37:00 PM
Man I am diggin these pics, maybe.. Just maybe someday I'll make bows like these.
Awsome work guys.

Joe, I think yor holy bow and Dano's are my favorite so far. Love them all but those two got some eye appeal.
Kris
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: Osagetree on January 09, 2010, 12:28:00 PM
This bow had a nice knot in the top of the handle / fade but, ended up too light and slow. I shortened it and found a young feller to go frog'n with me. The bow fit him well and took a few frogs that night.

  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/justforEaston21.jpg)

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/justforEaston2.jpg)

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/justforeaston33.jpg)

  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/frogging7-7-079.jpg)
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 09, 2010, 01:37:00 PM
Very neat bows..
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on January 09, 2010, 06:21:00 PM
Cool Froggin trip
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: Osagetree on January 12, 2010, 03:51:00 PM
Come on guy's,,, more pics!
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on January 13, 2010, 02:02:00 PM
TTT
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: longbowhntr on January 13, 2010, 03:11:00 PM
Here is a takedown bow I did sometime back...
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/longbowhntr/takedown%20bow/424f5df4.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/longbowhntr/takedown%20bow/f9bf4c76.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/longbowhntr/takedown%20bow/d077c136-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: ron w on January 13, 2010, 04:32:00 PM
Neat stuff!!!!
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on January 14, 2010, 03:05:00 AM
Oh yeah, I like that nasty little take down.

I'm just a begining bowyer and for some reason tha nastier the stave the more I am drawn to it. I really like those character bows. For some reason a good straight knot free stave just don't turn me on like a wiggled up knotty one does. High hopes I know but I'll get there.

Longbowhuntr, what kind of sleeve did you use on that?
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: longbowhntr on January 14, 2010, 04:31:00 AM
I think that was called the small "D" sleeve.
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: Osagetree on January 14, 2010, 04:39:00 PM
longbowhntr, really nice looking bow! Looks as though you followed the growth ring right up the limb. It's really cool that the center was removed. Did it come out easy or did you have to pick and dig a lot?
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: longbowhntr on January 14, 2010, 09:05:00 PM
The center of the knots were pretty soft, I did have to dig a little to get them cleared out. That bow had several firsts for me...

first bow with holes in limbs
first takedown
first time using oven cleaner to age the osage
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: bowhunterksb32 on January 15, 2010, 02:08:00 PM
Joe, I just showed easton the froggin pics and he's ready to go again. He keeps asking me when i'm going to make him a "real bow like the 2 u gave him.
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: Osagetree on January 15, 2010, 03:46:00 PM
:biglaugh:  

You could do it Scott!

PM me sometime!
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: DVSHUNTER on January 15, 2010, 05:50:00 PM
here is one I have roughed out and am drying. Got a ways to go.  (http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss13/dvshunter/CIMG0131.jpg)
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: Osagetree on January 16, 2010, 12:16:00 AM
Ya mon! Dat's what'm talk'n bout!  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: 4est trekker on January 16, 2010, 12:37:00 AM
Here's a knot on first character bow.  The stave didn't have any crazy knots, but they were knots none-the-less.

(http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/isaacscr/Osage%20Character%20Bow%201/HPIM2376.jpg)
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: DVSHUNTER on January 16, 2010, 12:50:00 AM
I was wondering if anyone would get that. :-)
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: Osagetree on January 16, 2010, 01:05:00 PM
Questionable spot on backing. Left it on and it was fine.
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Charles%20bow/IMG_0832.jpg)

Edge of a knot on the side of limb. Left in the finished bow.
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Charles%20bow/IMG_0833.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Charles%20bow/IMG_0925-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: red hill on January 21, 2010, 12:58:00 AM
Guys, these photos are great... I'm new to the site and have only managed one bow that hasn't broken. Workin' on a second red oak board bow.  I can only wish to be able to produce such artful pieces of work.
Keep 'em comin'!
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: broketooth on January 21, 2010, 05:53:00 AM
here is a bow that was near completion when i got it . its a gift from mr pat brennen.it neede final tiller sanding , a finish, and a handle wrap.this bow has been in a few posts im proud of itthanks mr pat. back of bow (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/osagebowpics001.jpg)upper limb knot, mr pat calls it a texas peep sight (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/osagebowpics002.jpg)tips are black walnut (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/osagebowpics003.jpg)lower limb pin knots (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/osagebowpics004.jpg)belly side of texas peep sight (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/osagebowpics005.jpg)here is a pic of the handle wrap, i had to do the stitch on the heel side due to fitment trouble of a bulbous handle. (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/osagebowpics006.jpg)lower limb belly side pin knots (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/osagebowpics007.jpg)and finally a strung profile (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/osagebowpics008.jpg)im currently working on another bow but it was fun learning on this. i really love the beauty of osage. thanks again mr pat
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: Osagetree on January 21, 2010, 04:13:00 PM
You guys make a great team on a selfbow!
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: carver on February 20, 2010, 12:21:00 AM
Yew longbow pulling ~ 80# @ 29"

(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk314/NomadArchery/Jacali%20Bow/Picture049.jpg)

(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk314/NomadArchery/Jacali%20Bow/Picture051.jpg)

(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk314/NomadArchery/Jacali%20Bow/Picture.jpg)

(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk314/NomadArchery/Jacali%20Bow/Picture007.jpg)

kid's bow...maybe 35 @ 28"

(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk314/NomadArchery/ylb5/Picture051.jpg)

(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk314/NomadArchery/ylb5/Picture049.jpg)


At first, i was very reluctant to cut into the knots, and thought of going wide around them...but the bows just wouldn't bend.  So i just rasped through them, filled them with superglue or epoxy...good to go.
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: carver on February 20, 2010, 12:23:00 AM
yew holmegaard, 56# @ 28"

(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk314/NomadArchery/yew%20holmegaard/Picture167.jpg)

(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk314/NomadArchery/yew%20holmegaard/Picture175.jpg)

(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk314/NomadArchery/yew%20holmegaard/Picture178.jpg)

(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk314/NomadArchery/yew%20holmegaard/Picture177.jpg)

(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk314/NomadArchery/yew%20holmegaard/Picture179.jpg)

yew holmegaard, 52# @ 27"  (only 57" OAL)

(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk314/NomadArchery/yh3/Picture001.jpg)

(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk314/NomadArchery/yh3/Picture006.jpg)
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: carver on February 20, 2010, 12:23:00 AM
yew longbow, 61" oal, 50# @ 28"  (a light and FAST bow, love this one)

(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk314/NomadArchery/ylb10/Picture015.jpg)

(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk314/NomadArchery/ylb10/Picture013.jpg)

(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk314/NomadArchery/ylb10/Picture009.jpg)
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: Brent Hill on February 21, 2010, 04:49:00 PM
I needed this.  Just spent all morning  taking my first osage stave done to the first ring and was overwhelmed with the knots.  Thanks, Bhill
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: talkingcabbage on February 25, 2010, 09:55:00 PM
Awesome pics guys.  If my garage ever gets warm (right now it's about 5 degrees)  I'll get out and start tillering my osage stave.  It's got a few cool and possibly dangerous knots to work through.  The pics really give me some insight and encouragement!
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: ishi1archer on February 26, 2010, 09:43:00 AM
Hop hornbeam flatbow
(http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab107/archer555/007-1.jpg)
(http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab107/archer555/008-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Selfbows - Knots
Post by: JMartin on February 28, 2010, 01:24:00 AM
There's some pretty wild knots on some of those bows....I love 'em!