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Title: anyone ever tried this? drawing
Post by: dutchwarbow on December 21, 2009, 11:25:00 AM
Inspired by the black widow PSA

belly is Ipé, back is bamboo.

riser setup, from back to belly:

- figured bubinga , maple, purpleheart, maple, ipe (the belly), maple and/or figured bubinga

(http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh367/hanshanssam/bows2/wood%20laminates/drawings/Afbeelding002.jpg)

what do you think? anyone ever tried this style of reverse risers on an all-wood bow?

Nick
Title: Re: anyone ever tried this? drawing
Post by: Tom Leemans on December 21, 2009, 01:52:00 PM
Looks like you'd be the first one Nick! I'd be worried about it holding together where the limb goes into the riser, since the core wood doesn't run all the way through. Maybe if the limbs were laminations instead of a core backed by boo?
Title: Re: anyone ever tried this? drawing
Post by: frank bullitt on December 21, 2009, 09:44:00 PM
You'll shoot your eye out!  :biglaugh:  

I had to say that, it's the holiday season!

Really though Nick, someone last year posted doing all osage recurved limbs, on a t.d. riser. And knowing your talent, you could pull it off!

Looking foward to the finished pics!
Title: Re: anyone ever tried this? drawing
Post by: Tom Leemans on December 22, 2009, 08:47:00 AM
Hey Nick. What about if you made it a take down? or was that the plan? I think if the limbs were a seperate component, you could get it to work. Need some kind of overlay or hard plastic washer where they'd bolt on though.
Title: Re: anyone ever tried this? drawing
Post by: dutchwarbow on December 22, 2009, 03:21:00 PM
thanks for your helpfull comments guys.

the backing runs up the handle, and the belly will run through the handle, for the biggest part.

I will give it a try as soon as I have my stuff set-up, but I'm a little afraid the boo will peel off. If it does, the next attempt will get a 1" thick powerlam between the belly and backing, but the main part of the riser will be glued-over the backing.

I haven't really thought about takedowns yet. the lineing up scares me pretty much  ;)

It will take a while till I get my new beltsander, but wish me luck! I might need it!

Nick
Title: Re: anyone ever tried this? drawing
Post by: mater on December 24, 2009, 07:31:00 PM
It almost looks like it is symetrical and could be a left-right bow if the shelf stuck out.  the tiller would be off unless you had two string groves like Ive seen on somebodys bow.   Mark
Title: Re: anyone ever tried this? drawing
Post by: dutchwarbow on December 25, 2009, 07:35:00 PM
mater... It's a drawing. And it's a wooden bow, wich will be tillered.

I've made warbows with double stringgrooves.

Nick
Title: Re: anyone ever tried this? drawing
Post by: mater on December 26, 2009, 11:52:00 AM
I dont think your getting my point... never mind
Title: Re: anyone ever tried this? drawing
Post by: K. Mogensen on December 26, 2009, 12:00:00 PM
I see what he's talking about. Are you saying that if the shelf stuck out enough, you could just flip the bow "upside down" and restring it? You could just have symmetrical tiller couldn't you? Instead of positive?
Title: Re: anyone ever tried this? drawing
Post by: dutchwarbow on December 26, 2009, 05:36:00 PM
haven't yet thought about the riser, and it's influence. I'll make a centerpoint, get that shelf about 1" above, and just play with the wood for a little. It's not the Riser I'm worried about, but the backing that runs up the rier.... Ill just give it a try sooner or later.

Nick
Title: Re: anyone ever tried this? drawing
Post by: Hermann From Bavaria on December 26, 2009, 06:13:00 PM
you´ll make it nick  :thumbsup: !

but i think the only problem is at the backing riser area.

i´m sure you´ll make it nick!!

good luck, and please post pics

greets, herm
Title: Re: anyone ever tried this? drawing
Post by: frank bullitt on December 26, 2009, 09:41:00 PM
I don't see a problem Nick, if you mean at the riser? Bamboo seems to hold a deep reflex, without glass just fine.

Over the past 10 or so years, I have seen some pretty radical limbs with all wood or bamboo, done.

What do you perceive would be a problem?

I haven't done anything more elaborate than sinew backing on all wood. I have alot of intentions though!

But really, there is no set rules when it comes to bows, as I see it.  Just fun!