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Title: Wood backing question
Post by: Innocente on December 06, 2009, 11:20:00 PM
yet another few newbie questions:

regarding wood backings: (ie: bamboo backed, hickory backed, etc) -

1.  can i put a wood backing on a board bow, or is that more appropriate for a stave bow?

2.  how in the world do you true up the back of a stave so that you can glue on a backing? i read and read about ring chasing, and how the stave bows end up with lots of character - that would seem to make a really poor mating surface for a perfectly flat 1/8" hickory lamination.

3.  is it mandatory to use heat cured epoxy when gluing my backing? can i use the non heat cure epoxy?
Title: Re: Wood backing question
Post by: Rich Evans on December 06, 2009, 11:33:00 PM
1. yes you can put a wood backing on a board bow as well as any non wood backing like burlap, rawhide or sinew.
2. if I had a stave I would not put a wood backing on it. I would chase one ring and if I thought it needed a backing, i would use rawhide or sinew.  Not saying that a stave can't be trued up and a wood backing applied, but it just isn't worth the effort for me when rawhide is so easy to put on.

3. if putting on a wood backing or rawhide I use Titebond III. its a hard to beat glue for wood construction.

hope that helps. others may have more suggestions.
Title: Re: Wood backing question
Post by: bubby on December 06, 2009, 11:56:00 PM
what Rich said is spot on imo
Title: Re: Wood backing question
Post by: Pat B on December 07, 2009, 12:45:00 AM
Me too!
Title: Re: Wood backing question
Post by: Innocente on December 07, 2009, 10:12:00 AM
thanks guys, that clears up a lot.  soon as i can find me a hardwood backing, i'll experiment with this idea.
Title: Re: Wood backing question
Post by: spider1 on December 08, 2009, 09:32:00 AM
Just to add a little to what Rich said. The reason for using a backing is to simulate a single, unviolated ring for a backing. If a stave back is too dificult for the particular bow maker to follow, they could opt to decrown that stave with a plane and glue on a backing, or to chase the ring as best as they can and add a sinew or rawhide backing. Honestly, in my opinion, a wood or bamboo backing is best used on a board bow.
Title: Re: Wood backing question
Post by: Innocente on December 08, 2009, 11:09:00 PM
thanks spider, that summed up the explanation nicely.
Title: Re: Wood backing question
Post by: Diamondback59 on December 08, 2009, 11:36:00 PM
think u  need spend   a bit,time money read ttb 1 - 4  ya  get a heck of a lot of awnser s and ideas there   and  to be honest  even after id been at it 12 yeaRS I LEARNED EVEN MORE WHEN I READ EM  WOULDNT BE CAUGHT WOUT EM NOW HA  BROCK
Title: Re: Wood backing question
Post by: Innocente on December 09, 2009, 12:52:00 AM
i think imma ask santa for the bibles this christmas.
Title: Re: Wood backing question
Post by: sulphur on December 09, 2009, 09:09:00 PM
innocente, silk and linen go on boards too.  they don't always have to be hickory or bamboo.  a good  heavy linen does a great job.  i bought some online for about $6 a yd.  2yds will make a lot of bows.
Title: Re: Wood backing question
Post by: Pat B on December 09, 2009, 11:06:00 PM
Flax, raw linen fibers makes a good backing too. It is applied like sinew but it doesn't have the stretch of sinew. You can use TB glues for it too. I saw a few flax bows being built at the Tenn. Classic last year.
Title: Re: Wood backing question
Post by: Innocente on December 10, 2009, 08:00:00 PM
i ALWAYS back my stuff, working my way through a huge roll of linen right now. interested in this wood backing, just because i see so many posts with bamboo and hickory backed bows.
Title: Re: Wood backing question
Post by: spider1 on December 11, 2009, 10:23:00 AM
Try white oak as a backing also. It is about as strong as hickory but is naturally moisture resistant.