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Title: Bandsaws
Post by: Shakes.602 on October 22, 2009, 01:53:00 PM
I am considering going in with my Step-Dad for a Bench Top Bandsaw, or Floor. Where is a Good Place to Start Looking??  :saywhat:   If that makes any sense. LOL  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: JEFF B on October 22, 2009, 02:21:00 PM
if wall mart have em start there bro. or yard sales in such a big place like the usa ya just never know ya luck.
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: StanM on October 22, 2009, 03:38:00 PM
I would scour the classifieds.  Look for a used Jet or Delta 14" floor model if you can.  You can find a good deal on these if you look around a little bit.  Both are good machines in my experience.  Once you get it, you may have to invest a little in new cooling blocks/bearing wheels and rubber for the wheels, but you should end up with a quality bandsaw.  Oh yeah, if you can get one with the extension even better.

Stan
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: SoNevada Archer on October 22, 2009, 03:49:00 PM
I think you could find something in your local classified adds. But if you can afford a modest investment, I would look at the Sears "professional" models. They sale a very good quality tool.
Good luck!
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: bunky on October 22, 2009, 03:49:00 PM
I would second what Stan says.  I have a Grizzly 14 inch and wished I would have bought a Jet or Delta.  They are more expensive new, but if you can find a used one for a good price, start there. I was very happy with my Grizzly until I discovered that I would have to use there saw blades. You won't have the same problem with other manufacturers.
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: Pat B on October 22, 2009, 04:20:00 PM
I have a Grizzly 14" and it is plenty of saw for what I need it for; mostly selfbows but backed bows too.  Grizzly has a good parts supply and an excellent technical department with knowledgable folks ready to help with any problems.
 I also have a Grizzly 10" table saw, a 6"x48" table top belt/disc sander and a few smaller power tools I bought from them.
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: Pennsyltuckey pete on October 22, 2009, 05:18:00 PM
I get by with my Craftsman but I love my brothers Jet.  MUch better tool and easier to adjust.
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: Osagetree on October 22, 2009, 08:15:00 PM
Harbor Frieght has a nice floor model 14" for $289.00. Not name brand but it looks well built.
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: kennym on October 22, 2009, 09:07:00 PM
I have a Griz 14",I don't use Griz blades tho. Right now I have a Lennox Diemaster(I think) on it and have used Timberwolf.

I have run a LOT of lumber thru it.Only weak point is guide bearings,and I just buy new ones at a machine shop(sealed) for under $3.00 each.
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: sulphur on October 22, 2009, 09:34:00 PM
i agree with Grizzly.  i also have the 14" model with the 1 hp motor.  its great, easy to adjust and not to bad a price for as much machine as it is.  save your money until you can get a really good one.  don't hurry.
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: bunky on October 22, 2009, 09:35:00 PM
I use Wood Slicers 1/2 resaw blades from Highland Hardware $30. Being only 1/2 inch, I rarely change it out for a cross cut blade. Cuts very smooth!
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: sw on October 22, 2009, 09:54:00 PM
I use a 14" from harbor frieght, i got it 4 years ago and NEVER have had an issue with it. Its built everything from stick bows, lam bows a ballista, a speed boat and even a 1700# war crossbow.

I have had to replace the switch as the orignial collected dust and would interfer with on/off. nothing major - was a 5.00 repair and about 30 minutes of time.

I don't like the blade changing as i think the tensioner could be better placed, but again 5 minute blade changes and no issues with it. It cuts straight and is all the machine i have needed so far.

No matter what brand you do choose - DO NOT get anything under a 14" floor model. The 9" machines are not enough to take bow building far.


Dave
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: Diamondback59 on October 22, 2009, 10:07:00 PM
iv had about 6 band saws in the last 30 years   recantly had a buddy buy a grizzly  thats junk the inner parts are plastic   for my money the best iv found is a jet    delta my 2nd choice   my 2 cents brock
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: shamus on October 23, 2009, 06:47:00 AM
14", 3/4-1 Horsepower banndsaw is way you need.

used ones can be found pretty much everywhere,.
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: stickmonkey on October 23, 2009, 10:15:00 AM
Maybe a comparison between the models vs the price point would be a better help.

  delta 14" floor 3/4 hp- 399.00 (http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=59964-32764-28-276&lpage=none)  

  grizzly 14" ultimate band saw 1 hp - 509.00 delivered (http://grizzly.com/products/The-Ultimate-14-Bandsaw/G0555)  

With tax figured in on the delta , in the city I live in, both will be close in price, however don't forget the things you need for the saw like a fence, miter,blades,etc. Does it come with the saw or will you have to purchase the items? The Delta come with nothing whereas the grizzly come with fence, miter and a 3/8ths blade. all the little things add up so in the end the grizzly will be the cheaper unit.

As for blades, don't worry too much about it unless you just haft to be able to grab one locally.    suffolk machinery/ timber wolf blades (http://www.suffolkmachinery.com/default.asp) will sell you a high quality blade for a reasonable price and they are custom made to fit any saw. If you need blades to have in waiting just order a few more and store them.  

Look at the two for the features you want then listen to those that actually own the units. Its a large investment so no sense in rushing the choice.     :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: bubby on October 23, 2009, 11:08:00 AM
My wife got me a 14" harbor freight 3/4 hp bandsaw at a yard sale for 50 bucks. I've been more than happy with it. like dave said I had to change out the switch but big deal. Should be someone local that builds bandsaw blades any length ya want.
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: skeaterbait on October 23, 2009, 03:11:00 PM
I am still plugging away with my Craftsman 12" and never wished for anything bigger when I was building just bows. I have started tinkering with other things now and wouldn't mind a 14" but would still buy Craftsman.

I have blades made to fit it for $15 a blade, any config.
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: Shakes.602 on October 24, 2009, 06:38:00 AM
Great Info Guys!!  :thumbsup:   Thanks to ALL!!  :archer:
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: scrub-buster on October 24, 2009, 08:44:00 PM
I just picked up an almost brand new Delta 9" band saw off of craigslist for $35.  I have been using a Ryobi 9" for self bows and it worked fine.  The Delta is just in much better shape.  I cut mostly osage and just take it slow.  I am sure a 14" or bigger would be great, it is just not in my budget
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: Tom Leemans on October 25, 2009, 12:11:00 AM
Bunky my friend,
That saw has absolutely no idea what blade you put on it. Who said you have to use Grizzly blades? You have to tune your saw for each blade you put on it. That said, you want a good blade for any saw? Get a Timberwolf silicon steel blade from Suffolk Machinery. They'll set you up with whatever you need.
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: scrub-buster on October 25, 2009, 02:03:00 AM
Shakes.602,
    I checked the Indianapolis craigslist site and there are several different band saws in the tools section.
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: Shakes.602 on October 25, 2009, 05:27:00 PM
Thank you Scrub-Buster!! Never used "craigslist" before. Is it kinda like the Classifieds in the Star?
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: scrub-buster on October 25, 2009, 09:15:00 PM
Craigslist is a free online classifieds.  There is a lot of junk on there, but also a lot of deals.  I have bought and sold a lot of stuff on it.
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: Russell S. on October 26, 2009, 12:42:00 AM
got my craftsman 12" for 50$ on craigslist.  works like a champ, even came with a "fiberglass" blade (super dull that is) wish i had a good fence, and some mounting points, but with a 50$ band saw i dont feel bad atall drilling holes in the deck.
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: skeaterbait on October 26, 2009, 06:20:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Russell S.:
, but with a 50$ band saw i dont feel bad atall drilling holes in the deck.
:eek:    :eek:    :eek:    :pray:
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: Steve Kendrot on October 27, 2009, 09:18:00 PM
Try Craigs List
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: Shakes.602 on October 29, 2009, 08:22:00 AM
I Found CraigsList!!    :readit:        :help:
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: wislnwings on October 29, 2009, 11:49:00 AM
I have a 14" Grizzly with a 6" riser extension and couldn't be happier.  I use Timberwolf blades and have no complaints.  I bought mine primarily for use in carving waterfowl gunning decoys, but it has worked well for all uses.  The only problem I had was when it arrived new.  The blade tensioning bars were bent.  I called Grizzly customer service and they appologized and overnighted (without me asking) replacements.
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: Russell S. on November 12, 2009, 05:45:00 PM
Here is the advantage of a 50$ band saw.  i bought a craftsman (same brand as my band saw) universal fit rip fence.  however of course it would not fit because of a 1.5 inch lip on the apron of the saw.  Well i believe "universal fit" means me and Mr. 4" makita have some work to do.  Some times i wish the manufacturer didn't have the same opinion., anyways this would have hurt on a 500$ Delta.  (of course it would have a fence) my only hesitation was because i was not sure i had any cut off wheels and it would have been a pain strait grinding it off.
15mins later, and it fits!
(http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/xochal/bow%20build/bandsawapron.jpg)
Title: Re: Bandsaws
Post by: Shaun on November 12, 2009, 07:02:00 PM
I have 3, not hording, just different sizes. A good 14" Delta for most work, an older 20" Jet bought off the auction site for big stuff, and just got a 9" Delta (craigs list) table top for traveling to events. I was surprised that the little table top worked fine for cutting osage bows blanks out of a stave after ring chasing. I'm sure it would wear out fast if you used it a lot, but if you are a part timer it should be fine. Paid $40 for it in almost new condition.