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Title: simple 80#, 62" elb-style bbi
Post by: dutchwarbow on August 27, 2009, 05:38:00 PM
this one's a little heavier, and simpler, drawing 80#@28". The length mademe come up with this tiller. Again, I had reflexed the outterlimbs slightly, again, for a better stringangle.

it's not an ELB, but an elb style. because of the depth/width ratio, the front profile and the rounded belly. but it has overlays, and it's pretty short with 62" between the nocks. These Elb-styles are easy to tiller and make!

80#@28"
1 1/4" wide max.
62" ntn
figured bubinga overlays (sorry for the bad pic)

(http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh367/hanshanssam/bows2/wood%20laminates/bbi%20longbow%2062in/Afbeelding044.jpg)

(http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh367/hanshanssam/bows2/wood%20laminates/bbi%20longbow%2062in/Afbeelding045.jpg)

(http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh367/hanshanssam/bows2/wood%20laminates/bbi%20longbow%2062in/Afbeelding049.jpg)

(http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh367/hanshanssam/bows2/wood%20laminates/bbi%20longbow%2062in/Afbeelding050.jpg)

(http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh367/hanshanssam/bows2/wood%20laminates/bbi%20longbow%2062in/Afbeelding007.jpg)
Title: Re: simple 80#, 62" elb-style bbi
Post by: Ryan Yoon on August 27, 2009, 09:05:00 PM
Thats awesome. I love that its so short and powerful. Fantastic tiller. I bet that thing spits an arrow. Great job!
Title: Re: simple 80#, 62" elb-style bbi
Post by: Ricker on August 27, 2009, 10:47:00 PM
I gotta tell you young man....  I think you are doing such a great job.  You are young and have a lifetime ahead of you.  Already you have done so much more than most do in a lifetime.  It is my opinion you have what it takes to be one of the legends in archery, keep up the good work.
Keep building and learning....and don't forget to do the most important thing.  Have fun !

Take Care,  Rick
Title: Re: simple 80#, 62" elb-style bbi
Post by: Pat B on August 28, 2009, 12:26:00 AM
Nick, as always your bows are impressive. This one looks like the bottom limb is a bit stiff at the fade...and again the tip overlays scare me being cut so thin at the groove.
Title: Re: simple 80#, 62" elb-style bbi
Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on August 28, 2009, 05:38:00 AM
Well-done!
Title: Re: simple 80#, 62" elb-style bbi
Post by: Apex Predator on August 28, 2009, 06:02:00 AM
Incredible!
Title: Re: simple 80#, 62" elb-style bbi
Post by: shamus on August 28, 2009, 07:03:00 AM
VERY well done!
Title: Re: simple 80#, 62" elb-style bbi
Post by: DCM on August 28, 2009, 09:27:00 AM
Really nice.  I bet you could trade 1/8" of width (at the arrow pass) for a little thickness and improve cast.  I bet it flings like a muther as it is.  Very nice.
Title: Re: simple 80#, 62" elb-style bbi
Post by: frank bullitt on August 28, 2009, 08:24:00 PM
HELLO, any Bowyers need a great, young study, help in your shop, with Talent! Good shootin, Steve
Title: Re: simple 80#, 62" elb-style bbi
Post by: dutchwarbow on August 30, 2009, 06:13:00 PM
thank you Ryan! it's pretty fast indeed  ;)

thanks Rick! what a kind thing to say. Legends in archery? I wouldn't even dream of it  ;)  but I sure have fun!!! Bowmaking is just such a great hobby... :)

Pat, you could be right about that fade... glad you like it anyways!

thanks ben!

Hey Marty! thanks for posting  ;)  your bows are just an inspiration for me  ;)  

thankyou shamus  ;)

DCM, I doubt if there would be too much benefit.. I had another bow (the trilam I posted) give me stability issues... it was exactly 1/8" narrower and had more reflex. Gotto keep in mind it's pretty stressed with it's 62" ntn and 80#...  :)

hehe thanks steve !
Title: Re: simple 80#, 62" elb-style bbi
Post by: DCM on September 01, 2009, 07:33:00 AM
Probably true wrt to performance.  Looks like it took a little set in the middle.  1 1/4" just seems generous at the arrow pass, but that's the nature of such a bow.
Title: Re: simple 80#, 62" elb-style bbi
Post by: dutchwarbow on September 01, 2009, 03:25:00 PM
yeah, that's right dcm. It may be optical though, as I had the outterlimbs reflexed. But I don't have any pre-tiller pics to support that.

I tillered this bow like this, to keep a low stringangle on a shorter bow. It had to have a little stiffer tips, and more bend in the inner limbs. To compensate a little, I glued in some reflex in the outterlimbs, to even out the strain. Worked out okay, imo. But this makes it (look>?) too round in the middle indeed.

thanks for your input, much apreciated.

Nick
Title: Re: simple 80#, 62" elb-style bbi
Post by: DCM on September 02, 2009, 08:43:00 AM
We see things similarly.

Just for curiosity, did you build it w/ arrow pass at dimensional center, or the typical above center with pressure point of bow hand at center?
Title: Re: simple 80#, 62" elb-style bbi
Post by: dutchwarbow on September 02, 2009, 10:11:00 AM
hehe DCM now you got me  ;)

no arrowpass at all. This is the smaller version of my warbows; I balance them on my thumb, and then put my hand below it, so the arrow lies 3/8" above centre.

thanks for your interesse  ;)

Nick
Title: Re: simple 80#, 62" elb-style bbi
Post by: DCM on September 02, 2009, 03:14:00 PM
With the cant in your full draw pic it's hard to see.  Well you do have a defined arrow pass location just not a shelf or strike plate,  3/8" above is I think appropriate for such a bow.  At least compared to what is commonly done, arbitrarily frequently, at a pre-determined 1 3/8" or thereabout above center.  

One of my favorites, from memory, was not so stout as this but similarly short, bendy and much fun to shoot with light cane arrows.
Title: Re: simple 80#, 62" elb-style bbi
Post by: dutchwarbow on September 03, 2009, 06:33:00 PM
okay!

I use the same method on my warbows and it works great  ;)  glad you like it too!

gotto shoot this one a little more  ;)

Nick