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Title: Osage arrows?
Post by: poundemin on August 17, 2009, 09:49:00 PM
This past weekend I helped my step-father split an Osage log. Out of the deal I got 3 staves(yea!). Each of these chunks of wood measure around 6 inches wide and 6 inches deep and 8 ft long- wedge-shaped of course. I don't THINK I can get 2 bows per wedge (although someone more experienced might be able to). I do think I can get some arrows from the remnants though. Would it be worth the effort? I know someone shoots Osage, but I haven't heard anyone own up to it.   :)  These staves will be my first attempt at bowbuilding and I just thought that if I could make matching arrows it would be kind of fitting. Anyone out there have Osage experience?
Leonard
Title: Re: Osage arrows?
Post by: frank bullitt on August 17, 2009, 09:57:00 PM
Leonard go for it! I would try for 5/16" dia. It has been done and can be. Post when you have them! Good shootin, Steve
Title: Re: Osage arrows?
Post by: Dano on August 17, 2009, 10:01:00 PM
If these are clean staves, not too many knots. I would get belly splits, and then split them again for three staves per. A stave needs only be near 2" x 2" min.
Title: Re: Osage arrows?
Post by: poundemin on August 17, 2009, 10:19:00 PM
Few knots as far as I can tell, but I haven't removed the bark or sapwood yet. There were no limbs on this section of the tree so I'm hoping knots and pins will be at a minimum. I might be able to do that with two of them, but the third has quite a bit of tear out. I won't be able to get a third out of that one but MAYBE two. Although I'm a woodworker(or at least I pretend I am) I'm entering brand new territory to me. I have a feeling this is going to be another one of those hobbies that's going to fill up my shop.  lol
Maybe I can use that for my arrows.   :)  Why 5/16? Wouldn't 1/2 be a little better? I don't know, that's why I'm asking.  
Leonard
Title: Re: Osage arrows?
Post by: Dano on August 17, 2009, 10:37:00 PM
This time of year, the first thing I'd do is get the bark and sapwood off or the borers will destroy them staves.
Title: Re: Osage arrows?
Post by: strungstick on August 18, 2009, 12:25:00 AM
Osage might make some pretty good arrows, if it is stable.  I made a lot of my arrows out of hard maple and they are about as indestructible as they come.  They drop like a rock after about 25 yards, however.
Title: Re: Osage arrows?
Post by: Mike Most on August 18, 2009, 12:38:00 AM
I have made some osage footed arrows, cut the osage into 3/8 square stock and worked them down from there, back half of the arrows were fir. tapered 11/32 to 5/16. It is heavy and almost indestructable.
Good Luck

Mike
Title: Re: Osage arrows?
Post by: Eric Krewson on August 18, 2009, 09:01:00 AM
I made a few osage arrows. Very heavy and wouldn't stay straight, much like bad ash shafts.
Title: Re: Osage arrows?
Post by: George Tsoukalas on August 18, 2009, 09:15:00 AM
Very heavy. You could use some of tyhe left overs for footings. Jawge
Title: Re: Osage arrows?
Post by: John Scifres on August 18, 2009, 10:54:00 AM
My experience parallels Eric's.  I have one that is over 1100 grains with a 200 grain trade point on it.  Coupled with a 60#+ bow, it would shoot through most anything I imagine.  It knocks the snot out of deer target.  If you were treestand hunting, you'd probably just drop it through a deer  :)

I've made some really cool snaky osage arrows too.  Osage arrows are a lot of work but great fun at the same time.
Title: Re: Osage arrows?
Post by: bigcountry on August 18, 2009, 01:14:00 PM
I don't know if it can be done, but it would be cool if you could.
Title: Re: Osage arrows?
Post by: bretto on August 18, 2009, 01:36:00 PM
I've always wondered about this. My father had a set of golf clubs that had osage shafts in them. Keep us posted if You have any luck.
Title: Re: Osage arrows?
Post by: George Tsoukalas on August 18, 2009, 03:08:00 PM
Not only can it be done but osage arrows are used for corn stalk shooting. Because of their weight they penetrate further. Jawge
Title: Re: Osage arrows?
Post by: poundemin on August 18, 2009, 08:01:00 PM
Well, from all I see here, I think it's worth a shot and if it doesn't work for me that way I'll try footing some. I'm still studying about that.  :)
And I'll stripping the bark off either tomorrow night or Thursday night. Although my shop isn't completely bugproof, I'm not too afraid of much getting to them now. I just hope nothing has gotten to them already. I'll find out in a couple of days.
Leonard
Title: Re: Osage arrows?
Post by: Bill Skinner on August 18, 2009, 09:42:00 PM
I watched someone make a 28 inch barrel tapered shaft from an osage splinter.  He used heat to straighten it.  Had a self nock.  He used a pocket knife and a sanding block.  Took him about an hour to make.  Bill
Title: Re: Osage arrows?
Post by: John Scifres on August 18, 2009, 10:41:00 PM
Here's the 1100 grain arrow I was talking about.  (http://sticknstring.webs.com/photos/Old-Bowmaking-Pics/sagearrow4.jpg)

 (http://sticknstring.webs.com/photos/Old-Bowmaking-Pics/sagearrow1.jpg)

 (http://sticknstring.webs.com/photos/Old-Bowmaking-Pics/sagearrow2.jpg)

 (http://sticknstring.webs.com/photos/Old-Bowmaking-Pics/sagearrow3.jpg)
Title: Re: Osage arrows?
Post by: John Scifres on August 18, 2009, 10:44:00 PM
Here's a snaky one.

 (http://sticknstring.webs.com/photos/Old-Bowmaking-Pics/mpsarrow1.JPG)
Title: Re: Osage arrows?
Post by: Tom Leemans on August 19, 2009, 09:50:00 AM
If you use it for arras, use it for footing.
Title: Re: Osage arrows?
Post by: poundemin on August 20, 2009, 08:26:00 PM
Awesome arrows John, although the snaky ones puzzle me.  lol Have you used the 1100 grain arrow for anything- like mastodon? That thing looks huge.
Leonard