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Title: Historic Arkansas Museum Bowie Exhibit
Post by: gables on June 12, 2014, 11:51:00 PM
I made the trip last week to the musuem and shot a bunch of images. I am selecting the best to post as I slowly process them. Some are blurry from the low light but still offer detail. Enjoy!

  (http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww75/gables_photo/DSC_1383_zps7181686a.jpg) James Black style reproduction made by Tim Ridge.
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Title: Re: Historic Arkansas Museum Bowie Exhibit
Post by: gables on June 13, 2014, 12:02:00 AM
(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww75/gables_photo/DSC_1398_zps6eac8b7d.jpg)
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Title: Re: Historic Arkansas Museum Bowie Exhibit
Post by: Lin Rhea on June 13, 2014, 08:10:00 AM
Very nice photos. I look forward to seeing more.

Edited to add: The top knife photo is also a reproduction in the James Black style. Made by Tim Ridge.

The museum has two cases of reproductions that are worthy in themselves and show the current interest in historic knives of the antebellum period.
Title: Re: Historic Arkansas Museum Bowie Exhibit
Post by: Alexander13 on June 13, 2014, 08:34:00 AM
Cool thank you for sharing!
Title: Re: Historic Arkansas Museum Bowie Exhibit
Post by: tippit on June 13, 2014, 09:25:00 AM
gables,
Thanks for taking the time & pictures with the descriptions!  That was really nice to see especially the Edwin Forest knife for me.  Those are just like my camp knives...now I can say I make Bowies too  :)
Title: Re: Historic Arkansas Museum Bowie Exhibit
Post by: kbaknife on June 13, 2014, 12:23:00 PM
I was able to walk that exhibit and was in awe.
There's a Mason dagger there that just really tripped my trigger.
Title: Re: Historic Arkansas Museum Bowie Exhibit
Post by: gables on June 13, 2014, 12:46:00 PM
Thanks Lin for the correction, I edited the first post. I hope you might catch any more mistakes or fill in some gaps. Will post more over the weekend.
Title: Re: Historic Arkansas Museum Bowie Exhibit
Post by: tomsm44 on June 13, 2014, 05:16:00 PM
Good post.  I was up there last Friday and enjoyed the bowie exhibit a lot.  If anybody has a chance, I'd recommend checking it out.  But you better hurry, I think this exhibit is moving out pretty soon if I'm not mistaken.

Matt
Title: Re: Historic Arkansas Museum Bowie Exhibit
Post by: gables on June 13, 2014, 08:48:00 PM
(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww75/gables_photo/DSC_1402_zps131112eb.jpg) I was unable to get a good photo of the cross shaped escutcheon on the back. Also see the below coffin handle.
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The point on this coffin handle has been presumably reshaped. The long eschtcheon on this side is like the cross escutcheon on the Masonic version above (minus the cross of course). Out of all the knives there, I was most inspired by the James Black style coffins, and especially, this little deviant.
  (http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww75/gables_photo/DSC_1394_zps721807a4.jpg)
  (http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww75/gables_photo/DSC_1395_zps9e0a0a82.jpg) This detail shows the tapered tang, raised spine and alignment of the spine with the pommel wrap.
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Title: Re: Historic Arkansas Museum Bowie Exhibit
Post by: gables on June 13, 2014, 09:37:00 PM
I shot more detail shots than full view. Some of the below are unattributed.
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  (http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww75/gables_photo/DSC_1407_zps82ae26b1.jpg) Marks and Rees Coffin Handle, mid 1830s


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Title: Re: Historic Arkansas Museum Bowie Exhibit
Post by: gables on June 13, 2014, 09:41:00 PM
(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww75/gables_photo/DSC_1414_zps284510e9.jpg)
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Title: Re: Historic Arkansas Museum Bowie Exhibit
Post by: Lin Rhea on June 13, 2014, 10:00:00 PM
Fantastic photos!
Title: Re: Historic Arkansas Museum Bowie Exhibit
Post by: gables on June 13, 2014, 10:35:00 PM
Thanks Lin. As you said, "we are all in this together," so I'll contribute where I can.

 (http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww75/gables_photo/DSC_1417_zpsd9848b6e.jpg) This Will and Finck Larrge California Bowie was another favorite. 1870's to 1890's. 9.875" blade, 14.5" overall.

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Samuel Bell Dirk. I have shots of two similar dirks but one caption below.
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Title: Re: Historic Arkansas Museum Bowie Exhibit
Post by: gables on June 13, 2014, 10:41:00 PM
Lin- You might can confirm this. I believe these two detail shots are of an unchracteristic Sam Bell Sheffield style bowie.
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Title: Re: Historic Arkansas Museum Bowie Exhibit
Post by: D.Ellis on June 14, 2014, 12:35:00 AM
Thanks for the photo tour......very cool stuff. I always liked Samuel Bell's style........hmmmmm.
Darcy   :campfire:
Title: Re: Historic Arkansas Museum Bowie Exhibit
Post by: Lin Rhea on June 14, 2014, 07:16:00 AM
Cant wait to see what you come up with Darcy. I see the wheels turning.

Yes Gabe, Bell may have not marked some of the actual style of knives that he's so known for. But he made and marked some other items including that fancy bowie (I think) and up scale table ware. In the "Bell case" is a cup that is clearly marked "S.Bell". His dirks are so clearly recognizable that they raise little question while other items would be verified further even though plainly stamped.

When all of the knives and related objects were arriving at the museum the owner insisted I look this cup over. Who am I to argue?   :rolleyes:  

       (https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3861/14231910569_da44225491_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nFCgbr)

Sorry for the sideways picture. flickr is messing with my brain again.
Title: Re: Historic Arkansas Museum Bowie Exhibit
Post by: gables on June 14, 2014, 09:09:00 AM
This may be helpful for those interested in forging Bell Dirks.    Bell Dirk Forging 1/9 (http://youtu.be/RoW6raaevHg)

Thanks for the notes Lin. I've got a few more photos to add.
Title: Re: Historic Arkansas Museum Bowie Exhibit
Post by: Doug Campbell on June 14, 2014, 09:28:00 AM
When my wife and I attended the AKA Show back in Feb I spent many hours over four days at the Museum. I was trying to absorb everything I could from all those fabulous knives. Must have taken over a hundred pictures. I know my wife got maybe just a tiny bit bored waiting on me...  ;)

I saw my first couple Bell knife in person back a few years ago and was fascinated by them. They inspired this knife I posted a couple months ago but I had a Pro Pic made so thought you might like them better than my junky ones.

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I expect there are a few more knives in my future inspired by that incredible collection in AR.
Title: Re: Historic Arkansas Museum Bowie Exhibit
Post by: gables on June 15, 2014, 02:59:00 PM
That's a beauty Doug! I've been kicking around how to forge a square stick of 1080 into a Bell-inspired dirk.

Here are a few more from the museum.
Unattributed details.
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Title: Re: Historic Arkansas Museum Bowie Exhibit
Post by: gables on June 15, 2014, 03:03:00 PM
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Title: Re: Historic Arkansas Museum Bowie Exhibit
Post by: gables on June 15, 2014, 03:13:00 PM
(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww75/gables_photo/DSC_1439_zpsfbff726a.jpg)
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The below are reproductions. I did not get the details other than the dog bone bowie on the right is by Dr. James Batson. This style bowie correlates to Batson's recent four-part Dog Bone Bowie series in Blade Magazine.
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Title: Re: Historic Arkansas Museum Bowie Exhibit
Post by: Lin Rhea on June 15, 2014, 04:11:00 PM
The one on the left is by one of the best knife makers to ever live when it comes to fit and finish. D.E. Henry