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Title: The evolution of a caper
Post by: Jeremy on January 23, 2009, 10:55:00 AM
Making a useful small knife is a bit of a challenge.  Designing a blade <3" with a small handle that's truly multipurpose and comfortable to use day after day makes designing a really good 4+" hunter look easy by comparison.

Most everyone has seen Doug's caper, and if not here's mine:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/fliksr/Knives%203/DougC.jpg)

A really useful design that's been copied by many (me included).  My Doug-inspired caper has a bit straighter profile (my preference).  I've made a bunch of these (and cleaned and butchered 2 deer with one on a bet) but it doesn't feel like "me"

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/fliksr/Bjorn1.jpg)(anyone tired of seeing this pic yet?)

About the same time I started making those I also made a bunch of straight hidden tang capers like this one (my first attempt at wire inlays a few year ago):
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/fliksr/Knives%203/DSCN1433.jpg)

Closer to "me" but not there.  Then for last year's knife swap I changed my mind (out of necessity) in the middle of making a knife and used a new (to me) caper design.  I really liked the way that knife felt.  This last week was the first chance I had to revisit that design and I came up with two nice ones.  Finally a small caper that's truly "me"!

I'll get pictures of those up this afternoon  :D

While we wait, I'd like to see how everyone else has approached the sub-3" challenge  :)   I know Karl posted a pair a few weeks ago... how about the rest of you?
Title: Re: The evolution of a caper
Post by: Kevin Evans on January 23, 2009, 11:25:00 AM
Jeremy I to am looking for a better design than I've seen.I think most of the smaller ones look great especially you first one ,but my problem is they don't feel good in my hand.
Can't wait to see your new design.
Here are the 5 and 6 knife I done a long time ago(trying to copy Doug)way to much curve in them!!!
Pics a bit blurry but you get the idea
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn293/coonpeter/knives9101112009.jpg) (http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn293/coonpeter/knives9101112012.jpg)
Title: Re: The evolution of a caper
Post by: robtattoo on January 23, 2009, 01:24:00 PM
I think that this is about my nearest to 'me' sub 3" knife to date. The blade is just on 2-7/8" but the handle's long enough to fill my hand & be 'useful' as opposed to 'handy', if you see what I mean!  :D

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/robtattoo/TX002.jpg)
Title: Re: The evolution of a caper
Post by: d. ward on January 23, 2009, 01:48:00 PM
Wow guy's those are outstanding work...Jer I like the bottom knife second pic.Now thats sweet.bd
Title: Re: The evolution of a caper
Post by: prarieboy on January 23, 2009, 02:31:00 PM
Hey Guys I really like the looks of every knife in this post. As for Me personaly for a knife that I may need to work all day with Robs Knife or the one rooster likes bottom of 2nd picture.
The almost straight handle with the bulb handle fits my my hands seemingly better. Again they all look very good(to this newbie)just some thoughts from my expirence. C-YAll Bob
Title: Re: The evolution of a caper
Post by: Jeremy on January 23, 2009, 04:01:00 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/fliksr/Knives%203/23Jan0900000.jpg)
The bottom one in the above pic has a bubinga and zircote handle, the top is macassar ebony and some of the gorgeous alligator juniper I have left from a stump my father brought back from NM.  Both blades are 1095HC that was clay coated and etched.  

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/fliksr/Knives%203/23Jan0900001.jpg)

The bubinga knife is how I intended the handle to be.  I ended up needing to narrow the juniper handle to work around some hidden faults in the burl... kind of glad I did.  I like the narrower handle too.  My wife (small hands) likes the way both knives feel and I like the way both handle (between a L and XL glove size.)
Title: Re: The evolution of a caper
Post by: MYSTIKBOW on January 23, 2009, 05:21:00 PM
First off just let me say Jeremy that I NEVER get tired of seeing that pic! What is that osage and bloodwood? an excellent combination of woods whatever they are! I like BOTH blade designs as well.  Each one has it's purpose.
Over the last couple of years though, for long periods of use I've come to appreciate a handle and design more like the one that Rob posted.
I'd say overall Jeremy that your caper design has evolved Very Very nicely.  I Like!

JOHN
Title: Re: The evolution of a caper
Post by: vermonster13 on January 23, 2009, 06:46:00 PM
Those are mighty fine looking knives all.
Title: Re: The evolution of a caper
Post by: Steve Nuckels on January 23, 2009, 09:12:00 PM
My very first knife!  L-6 Zebrawood/ebony.  

I like every one of the above!!!!

(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq143/Tillerboy_bucket/1stKnife7-11-08008.jpg)
Title: Re: The evolution of a caper
Post by: MYSTIKBOW on January 23, 2009, 09:29:00 PM
Dang Steve, Thats really nice!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The evolution of a caper
Post by: Doug Campbell on January 24, 2009, 12:48:00 AM
Yep keep em coming, I'm seeing all kinds of stuff I wanta copy  ;)     :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The evolution of a caper
Post by: Guru on January 24, 2009, 05:53:00 AM
You guys are all talented beyond belief    :notworthy:
Title: Re: The evolution of a caper
Post by: Bodork on January 24, 2009, 02:13:00 PM
I love all these knives! Steve, how long is yours?(the knife!)
Title: Re: The evolution of a caper
Post by: tippit on January 24, 2009, 08:10:00 PM
Here's a little hiccup in the evolution.  I must live too close to that nuke power plant  :eek:  Doc

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/tippit/Knives/PigGigTecateSkinner006.jpg)
Title: Re: The evolution of a caper
Post by: sticshooter on January 24, 2009, 08:28:00 PM
Here's one I made about a week ago.<><
 (http://inlinethumb48.webshots.com/38319/2888237920051876912S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2888237920051876912gziavz)
Title: Re: The evolution of a caper
Post by: Steve Nuckels on January 24, 2009, 08:30:00 PM
Bodork, the blade is 3 1/4" and 1 1/4" at it's widest point, 7" OAL.  From a old saw mill saw blade.

Not a knife in the bunch I woulden't be proud to carry!  Great Stuff!
Title: Re: The evolution of a caper
Post by: Steve Nuckels on January 24, 2009, 08:37:00 PM
Here is my second knife, its a little caper/patch knife withe Bacote handle.  7 1/2" OAL.  An interesting texture on the blade that happened during the heat treat/quench.

I made the sheath, it has a Beaver tail leather accent!

(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq143/Tillerboy_bucket/Patchknifebuildalong10-08038.jpg)
Title: Re: The evolution of a caper
Post by: backwater on January 27, 2009, 08:08:00 PM
Sticshooter,i like this one . How about a dark wood or antler with burr handle.
Title: Re: The evolution of a caper
Post by: backwater on January 27, 2009, 08:10:00 PM
Stickshooter im talking about the one you made.
Title: Re: The evolution of a caper
Post by: Larry Surtees on January 27, 2009, 10:30:00 PM
All look great!  Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: The evolution of a caper
Post by: Ray Hammond on January 28, 2009, 11:28:00 AM
I guess we all have different ideas about what constitutes a particular style of blade.

In my opinion a skinner/utility needs a little belly and a drop point, and look like this-

  (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e322/rayhammond123/twonewcompletedhunters2.jpg)

A caper should look a little like a paring knife..pointy, for getting around antler pedicles, splitting lips, going around the eyes, and really sharp, smallish, and fit nicely in the palm

  (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e322/rayhammond123/minicaper1-1.jpg)

I own three of Doug's knives, so that says what I think about them! I like where your design is headed, Jeremy. And Rooster and Doc's are great, also!