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Title: black birch
Post by: bowman_79 on January 30, 2007, 12:03:00 AM
I finally have a nice dried and strait stave of black birch. I took it down to rough dimensions today. Its a pretty tough wood to work with a sg of .67. For some reason, I cant find my notes for finding the optimal poundage for a 2" wide black (sweet) birch selfbow. Its going to be 66 1/2" ntn. Can anyone give me a little advice? thanks.
Title: Re: black birch
Post by: Pat B on January 30, 2007, 12:39:00 AM
You ought to be able to get a 45# to 50# overbuilt bow with sweet birch. It is stronger in compression and not so strong in tention, I believe.    I've made a few but they were sluggish.   Pat
Title: Re: black birch
Post by: bowman_79 on January 30, 2007, 07:17:00 PM
That light for such a heavy wood? I was hoping for a different answer than that.    :(   huh
Title: Re: black birch
Post by: Pat B on January 31, 2007, 12:19:00 AM
Try a piece and see what results you can get. It was a few years ago when I built one and since then I found other woods I like better. Maybe if backed it would work out better. We have a lot of sweet birch here. The twigs taste good if that helps any.    Pat
Title: Re: black birch
Post by: bowman_79 on January 31, 2007, 01:17:00 AM
The grain is really straight, so I'll keep it unbacked. I guess trapping might be an option here. I use this website for all my wood specs...   http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/fplgtr/fplgtr83.pdf

I see compression on there, but what do I use for the tension properties? Sweet birch is on page 27.

The winter hasnt been hard enough to start chewing on the twigs yet.
Title: Re: black birch
Post by: Pat B on January 31, 2007, 10:27:00 AM
Even though the grain is straight adding a backing will add tention strength that I believe birch lacks. Both of us are lucky to have plenty of good bow woods where we live. I have played with most of them and have become partial to some and others I don't mess with. Birch is one I haven't messed with for a while. I do have a few staves in my work shop.
  Sweet Birch is where oil of Wintergreen comes from. Primitives used the twigs for tooth brushes. It has a nice cooling taste to it.   Pat
Title: Re: black birch
Post by: Pat B on January 31, 2007, 12:58:00 PM
John, Trapping might be a good idea for birch but trap it backwards...wide back narrow belly.   Pat