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Title: keeping vintage bows strung?
Post by: Pokerdaddy on September 06, 2011, 09:02:00 PM
Guys, I know this has probably already been covered, but will ask again.  Can I leave my early 70's Bears strung?  I hang my bows horizontally by the string.  Didn't know if the older lams would dislike the pressure of staying strung.

I shoot my bows daily and love being able to pick em up, check brace, and start flinging arras.

Thanks,
Andrew
Title: Re: keeping vintage bows strung?
Post by: reddogge on September 06, 2011, 11:29:00 PM
I never did. I do leave modern bows strung though.
Title: Re: keeping vintage bows strung?
Post by: kuch on September 07, 2011, 05:48:00 AM
I keep them strung unless I know I am not going to use it. I hang my bows as you do but limbs rest on hooks. Have not had a problem.
Title: Re: keeping vintage bows strung?
Post by: Bjorn on September 07, 2011, 01:20:00 PM
I have a 59K that has been strung for ever.
Title: Re: keeping vintage bows strung?
Post by: jackdaw on September 07, 2011, 03:33:00 PM
Have a 67' Wing "slimline" that's been strung for months......on numerous occasions...zero problems...hung by the string horizontally.Also a 67 1/2 Super K.....strung for 2 months...works fine for me.
Title: Re: keeping vintage bows strung?
Post by: 69RECURVE on September 07, 2011, 07:27:00 PM
Have left numerous Old Bear bows strung for months with no issues. Hung horizontally by the string.
Title: Re: keeping vintage bows strung?
Post by: mullet on September 07, 2011, 08:24:00 PM
I leave a lot of mine strung,also, but I hang them all vertical by the string and one limb. Is this a problem?
Title: Re: keeping vintage bows strung?
Post by: oldbohntr on September 07, 2011, 11:31:00 PM
No, it's not a problem....unless something goes wrong! In my opinion and experience, a strung bow is more likely to be damaged if it falls to the floor than is an unstrung one(though anything can happen in a drop.)   I usually leave all the bows I am shooting a lot....usually several, strung and hanging vertically.  Others are unstrung and hung horizontally on pegs supporting the limbs, of course.
Title: Re: keeping vintage bows strung?
Post by: PAPALAPIN on September 10, 2011, 08:24:00 AM
The best chance you have of damaging a vintage recurve is when stringing or unstringing.  Since it will not hurt to leave theses old gems strung up (as long as they are stored properly), it is actually best to leave them strung up rather than taking a chance of damaging them.

If you use a bow stringer properly, you minimize the probability of damage while stringing or unstringing.  The old "push pull method" can be used in the absence of a bow stringer, but one slip of the hand can put your eye out.

NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER....step throuth the string to string or unstring a bow.  If you use this method you had just as soon set the bow in a vice and twist the bottem limb out of shape as hard as you can.  This will save you time in ruining ypur bow, because eventually that's what the step through method will do for you.

Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: keeping vintage bows strung?
Post by: SlowBowke on September 14, 2011, 07:25:00 PM
"NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER....step throuth the string to string or unstring a bow. If you use this method you had just as soon set the bow in a vice and twist the bottem limb out of shape as hard as you can. This will save you time in ruining ypur bow, because eventually that's what the step through method will do for you."

While I dont anymore, I have always found this information posted to be "interesting" (not looking for a battle, just saying) since from 1960-1980 or a bit later, that was the only way I or anyone I knew strung a bow.

Number Ive seen twisted doing so?  zip.

Technique to them all it seems but while I dont now (normally) I wouldnt be afraid of doing so if needed. Push/pull just seems easier in most lengths to me.

Just thoughts, not arguing.

God bless
Title: Re: keeping vintage bows strung?
Post by: Horney Toad on September 14, 2011, 08:04:00 PM
Once a guy brought an old bow to sell me, I think it was a Herters 45# pull that had been strung a long time. It pulled about 20#. I have to believe you shouldn't leave a bow strung indefinitely.
Title: Re: keeping vintage bows strung?
Post by: stagetek on September 20, 2011, 11:48:00 PM
If I'm going to use it, I will string it. And leave it strung until I'm done using it. To me if you're not going to use it, why keep it strung ?
Title: Re: keeping vintage bows strung?
Post by: Hit-or-Miss on September 23, 2011, 06:42:00 PM
I have used the step-through method for well over 30 years (as I was taught in school and in Fred Bear's book), and never had an issue. As long as you go slow and use your torso, keeping the upper limb high up, against ones body to bend the bow, keeping both limbs in line, there shouldn't be a problem. Keep your strong hand FLAT against the upper limb as you twist, stringing with your weak hand. I have NEVER had a problem, and I un-string my bows (both new and vintage) after I'm done hunting or shooting. I don't want to chance the string breaking or the bow being picked up and dry fired by a novice if I'm not around. That being said, there have been LOTS of reports of twisted bow limbs from the step-through method (impropery utilized), over the years. I would tell anyone new, "get a bow stringer". I'm just too set in my ways to change at this point.
Title: Re: keeping vintage bows strung?
Post by: Hud on September 28, 2011, 01:23:00 AM
Personally, I do not leave them strung, except after straightening a twisted limb, then I will leave it over night or longer.

I had a heavy wt. Schulz Longbow with a twist in the lower limb, it was quite obvious, after straightening I left it over night and then after checking it the next day, unstrung it. Several days later, I strung it and it was off again. This went on for a few more days, and finally after straightening it again, I left it strung for over a week, and it stayed straight.
Title: Re: keeping vintage bows strung?
Post by: Hud on September 28, 2011, 01:47:00 AM
I have a 60", 60# Kodiak from 1956 with a double twist in the lower limb, and have seen others with a twist in the lower limb. It looks like it was caused by the step-thru-method. I used that method a few times many years ago. The push-pull method can result in a twist low in the lower limb, particularly with the narrow limb bows like the early Bears. The Kodiak was bought not too long ago, and it will be tough to get the twist out below the fadeout in the lower limb. Once that is done, the one in the recurve, that is in the opposite direction should be easier. I prefer bowstringers for recurves.
Title: Re: keeping vintage bows strung?
Post by: PAPALAPIN on September 30, 2011, 10:57:00 PM
I used to do it.  Learnrd fron the school of hard knocks not to.

Also not looking for an argument.  If you want to chance it...do it.  My bow collection is worth more than that to me.

Just sayin'.
Title: Re: keeping vintage bows strung?
Post by: Hit-or-Miss on October 06, 2011, 04:48:00 PM
No argument here friend! You ARE correct, the bow stringer is the way to go! I'm just a bit over halfway through this journey, and too stubborn to change.
Title: Re: keeping vintage bows strung?
Post by: mahantango on October 06, 2011, 05:02:00 PM
I leave most of the bows that I shoot on a regular basis strung, old or new. More chance of damage during the stringing process, even with a stringer. Plus, I'd rather have one let go while hanging on the rack than at full draw!
Title: Re: keeping vintage bows strung?
Post by: hayslope on October 10, 2011, 08:26:00 AM
To address the original thread.....Yes - I do leave some bows, both vintage and somewhat recent customs, strung.....if I am shooting them everyday or quite often.  I leave my wife's 1962 56" Polar strung all the time.  It has been strung basically since I brought it home in May....she shoots it all the time.  Like everyone else has noted, you take more chance damaging a bow when stringing than any other time.

When I got my first recurve in 1961/62, the step through method was the only method I was taught.  I NEVER saw anyone ever use a stringer.......I'm not sure I ever saw a stringer in those days.  I bought a used 1962 Kodiak in 1964.  That bow was never left strung.  It got shot a lot......until I sold it in 1982!  In all those years, it was strung by the step through method.  When sold in 1982 the limbs were as straight as the day I pulled it off the rack in 1964.

Of course....that being said......I NEVER go anywhere now with a bow.......without my Webster stinger!

Dale Dye sent me a new style stringer.  Similar to others that I've seen, but appears to be made specifically for recurves.  Kind of neat.

  :archer:
Title: Re: keeping vintage bows strung?
Post by: Swamp Yankee on October 11, 2011, 03:37:00 PM
Yup, I used the step through method to string and unstring my bows every time I used them from the early 60's; never had a problem.
That said, I began using a bow stringer in the mid 90s and haven't looked back.  Correctly done, the step through method will work fine, but why chance it when stringers are so inexpensive and easily available now?
Oh, and I will leave my Widow strung indefinately, but everything else only stays strung while it's being used.  I just don't trust some of the old glues after so many years.
Title: Re: keeping vintage bows strung?
Post by: TRAP on October 11, 2011, 04:55:00 PM
My 59 Kodiak that I nicknamed "Broken Heart" has been strung since Bowdoc finished the restoration 101 thread and sent it back to me.  I shoot it almost every day so I just leave it strung. Everything else is unstrung.

Trap
Title: Re: keeping vintage bows strung?
Post by: d. ward on October 23, 2011, 09:07:00 AM
I've told this one about 100 times if I told it once.Walking around the flee market one sunny saturday morning 10 years ago or so and bam low and behold I see's a beautiful 1958 bear back quiver setting on a sellers table.Hey nice quiver ... thank you,you can take it home for X bucks.Cool I'll take it hey you got the bow to go with it I ask ? oh yeah I have it in the trunk of the car.Give me about 10 minutes and I'll dig it out for you.
10 minutes later the guy pulls out a 1958 Bear Kodiak 64" as I recall 65#er.I know the weight was 65# not sure on the length I'll have to check my notes.Anywho the old bird is strung and strung with the original 1958 Bear Archery string.I ask him the seller if he strung it that morning and he says no no I did not.No I did not and the fact is.That was my fathers bow and he passed away in the early 1960's and the bow has been hanging in our garage ever since my dad died.It was hanging along with the quiver and arrows you bought.I asked are you sure the bow has been hanging there strung since the early 1960's holy smokes you sure ????? yes yes for sure he said no one has ever messed with it until now......I buy the bow quiver and arrows for 65.00.I went straight to Northwest Archery and tell Joe StCharles the story the guy told me.Joe down strung the bow and we replaced the original string just in case.Joe scaled the bow and confurmed the scale weight of the 1958 Kodiak was still 65#'s as marked.Never hurt the bow being strung and never lost any draw weight amazing but true bd
Title: Re: keeping vintage bows strung?
Post by: Xavier on October 24, 2011, 09:35:00 PM
Nice story. I believe it. Amazing things really.