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Title: 1952 Broadheads
Post by: SlowBowke on February 17, 2011, 09:32:00 AM
Like a few others have indicated, I've a yen to hunt with some equipment from the year I came kickin n screamin into this world.

Looking for info for ID (photos?) on 1952 broadheads.

On arrows whittled myself out of the Osage / Bamboo bow from Joseph.......I'll be good.

Ive got a Lafonds Lightning (flinch)and know Pearson had a few versions then but no photos of the "non" barbed ones or model numbers.


Any help is appreciated.

God Bless
Title: Re: 1952 Broadheads
Post by: Stumpkiller on February 17, 2011, 11:45:00 AM
1951 American Archery Sabre 6
       (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Stumpkiller/Broadheads/HPIM2129.jpg)

1942 Ben Pearson #782
       (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Stumpkiller/Broadheads/HPIM2133.jpg)

1947 Fleetwood King of the Forest
    (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Stumpkiller/Broadheads/HPIM2142.jpg)

1952 Goshawk
   (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Stumpkiller/Broadheads/HPIM2118.jpg)

1942 Zwickey
       (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Stumpkiller/Broadheads/HPIM2096.jpg)

The good news is that there are some modern heads that look the part.

Magnus, RibTek, Stos (these are my shooters)
       (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Stumpkiller/Bowhunting/HPIM2178.jpg)

And the Zwickey Eskimo will pass for a 1951 Zwickey except in color.

   (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Stumpkiller/Broadheads/HPIM2099.jpg)
Title: Re: 1952 Broadheads
Post by: Blackhawk on February 17, 2011, 12:07:00 PM
It was about that time for Glenn St. Charles "Mickey Finn" head...but he may have come out with that one in '53...not sure.  With his recent passing, the MF would be a good one.
Title: Re: 1952 Broadheads
Post by: SlowBowke on February 17, 2011, 12:59:00 PM
Thanks guys. The Goshawk I had completely forgotten about and dont think I really ever knew the years they were sold and the St. Charles head also is close enough for whom it's for.  November 1952.

The years things were "made" are highly unlikely to start Jan and end Dec and "years" are generalities....at least to me.

It would be an honor to go afield with one for sure.

God Bless
Title: Re: 1952 Broadheads
Post by: Stumpkiller on February 17, 2011, 01:16:00 PM
A couple more:

1952 American Sabre 2
     (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Stumpkiller/Broadheads/HPIM2140.jpg)

1952 Herpin A-1
     (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Stumpkiller/Broadheads/HPIM2122.jpg)

c.1950 Hills Hornet
  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Stumpkiller/Broadheads/HPIM2146.jpg)

I'm at work and don't have my ABCC Master List so I can't sort by date introduced.
Title: Re: 1952 Broadheads
Post by: d. ward on February 17, 2011, 01:24:00 PM
what about a 1945 Glenn StCharles Thunderbolt broadhead ???? I shot a black bear with a 1953 Glenn StCharles Mickey Finn broadhead a couple years ago.Was cool to see(with a well placed shot) those old broadheads seem to work as good as the new ones do bd
Title: Re: 1952 Broadheads
Post by: SlowBowke on February 17, 2011, 01:36:00 PM
Ok, maybe I should add AFFORDABLE 1952 broadheads, Bowdoc. LOL......Id cry losing any of em.

Thanks guys for the added ideas. The more I find the better odds I have of finding a couple shooters.


Since Ive never HEARD of the Thunderbolt.....Id guess that the prices are a bit MUCH since his first edition broadheads.

I found the link to Wade's BP display showing them.
Title: Re: 1952 Broadheads
Post by: SlowBowke on February 17, 2011, 02:07:00 PM
Are the early 50s Ace Standards the same as the ones out now?

Sorry for my ignorance.
Title: Re: 1952 Broadheads
Post by: Stumpkiller on February 17, 2011, 02:54:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by SlowBowke:
Ok, maybe I should add AFFORDABLE 1952 broadheads, Bowdoc. LOL......Id cry losing any of em.

Oh, come on.     ;)    I bet you could find them for not much more than some of the Abowyer and Silver Flame heads.     :biglaugh:  

The modern Ace Standards have an improved tip (three thicknesses instead of one) but are pretty close to the 1954/59 edition.

Then
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Stumpkiller/Broadheads/HPIM2106.jpg)

Now
 (http://www.acearcherytackle.com/graphics/ACEBROADHEAD1.jpg)
Title: Re: 1952 Broadheads
Post by: raghorn on February 17, 2011, 06:55:00 PM
Here's acomplete list of heads made in 1952. Heads made prior to this date would still be used and that list is huge.
Now that the list is here how many of these do you know what they look like, how blades they have or are available at a reasonable cost?


American Sabre 2, 11/32 Step TF, 96 gr
American Sabre 2, 11/32 Step TF, 123 gr
American Sabre 2, 11/32 Step TF, 151 gr
American Sabre 6, 1.22" Wing, 149 gr
American Sabre 6, 1.72" Wing, Step TF
Arrowmate 2 Metal 1/4
Arrowmate 2 Metal 9/32
Arrowmate 2 Metal 5/16
Arrowmate 2 Metal 11/32
Black Wasp 5/16, 1.55" Ferr
Black Wasp 5/16, 1.25" Ferr
Black Wasp 11/32, 1.55" Ferr
Cliff Krohn No Tang
Cliff Krohn w/ 3.5" Tang
Coe Slasher 4, Semi-Barb, .313" OD
Coe Slasher 4, Semi-Barb, .355" OD
Coe Slasher 4, Semi-Barb, .376" OD
Coe Slasher 2, Vert Rib, .328" OD, 112 gr
Coe Slasher 4, Vert Rib, .332" OD, 114 gr
Coe Slasher 4, Vert Rib, .345" OD, 136 gr
Coe Slasher 4, RndS, .348" OD, 82 gr
Coe Slasher 4, RndS, .373" OD, 124 gr
Coe Slasher 4, SlpS, .351" OD, 90 gr
Coe Slasher 4, SlpS, .403" OD, 133 gr
Everitt Quick Change, Bld .22" Below Ferr
Goshawk .172" Thick Shldr, 148 gr
Goshawk .170" Thick Shldr, 163 gr
Goshawk .170" Thick Shldr, 164 gr
Goshawk .315" Thick Shldr, 182 gr
Goshawk .271" Thick Shldr, 197 gr
Goshawk .198" Thick Shldr, 219 gr
Herpin Exp #2 SlpS, Alum MF
Herpin Exp #3 Barbed, Alum MF
Herpin Exp #4 Barbed, Field Pt Ferr
Herpin A-1 Glue On, 2.2" Ferr
Herpin A-1 Glue On, 2.0" Ferr
Herpin B-1 Tanged, 1.95" Ferr
Herpin B-1 Tanged, 2.1" Ferr
Hi-Precision 11/32, 172 gr
Hi-Precision/100# Bow Club, 3/8, 232 gr
Hi-Precision/100# Bow Club, 3/8, 248 gr
Hi-Precision/100# Bow Club, 3/8, 264 gr
Peltz Steel Ferr
Peltz Alum Ferr
Schmid Practical
Swarthout .022" Bld FS
Swarthout .024" Bld RSCO
Swarthout .034" Bld FS
Zeger-Palmer Barbed, Alum Ferr
Title: Re: 1952 Broadheads
Post by: doug77 on February 17, 2011, 08:56:00 PM
Ron, you sure do provide a lot of good info on old broadheads.

I will have to look you up some time if I ever get out their.

doug77
Title: Re: 1952 Broadheads
Post by: JavelinaHink on February 18, 2011, 02:50:00 PM
Hey Ron, Now let's not forget about the 15 or so LaFond's heads made in 1952, (2" & 2 3/8" two blade & Ripper's in both those size's also)for that complete list of yours..unless my dates are wrong that I have for them.......Hink
Title: Re: 1952 Broadheads
Post by: Stumpkiller on February 18, 2011, 02:52:00 PM
Hey, I just noticed - the 1952 A.A. Sabre 2 is a single bevel.  Ain't nuttin new in broadheads.  ;-)

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Stumpkiller/Broadheads/HPIM2140.jpg)
Title: Re: 1952 Broadheads
Post by: SlowBowke on February 18, 2011, 06:45:00 PM
Absolutely great list, Ron and totally accurate that I only know a few of them but with help from you all....when I do find things......if on the list it helps and my reason for asking.

Sticking with 2 blade (single blade) heads still being sold new in 52 and commonly used then and doubtful if the rarer (odd balls to me) will be of much interest.

Yep, big list there and wayyyyyyy out of my area of expertise.

Your point is made and accepted as humbly as I can.....sorry if I asked a bit much.

God Bless
Title: Re: 1952 Broadheads
Post by: sadiejane on February 18, 2011, 06:57:00 PM
you fellas are evil...
been trying to talk myself outta feeling a need to gather old broadheads and ya go and put up all these pix...

im really liking this site
thanks!
Title: Re: 1952 Broadheads
Post by: raghorn on February 18, 2011, 07:27:00 PM
JavelinaHink,
I pulled that list from the master list via a search. I just looked again and none of the Lafonds show 1952 on the list, in fact the earliest shown is 1955. However...I know you are the Lafonds expert so if I missed something please let me know. Does the master list need to be corrected?

Steve,
It is a worth while goal to pick a year and hunt with tackle from that year. I did it using 1962 gear.
I just figured you might what to know just how encompassing that year was. I wish I could post a picture of those heads but that would take awhile to put together. There are books that have them. Maybe the author will get in here.
Title: Re: 1952 Broadheads
Post by: JavelinaHink on February 19, 2011, 06:58:00 PM
Ron, Its on the way...It is in Wade Phillips Book on Broadheads 1871 - 1971...(Ref.in Archery Mag. Oct.1952 page 16 .........Hink
Title: Re: 1952 Broadheads
Post by: Wade Phillips on February 19, 2011, 07:08:00 PM
Ron,

This is a photograph of the LaFond's ad in Archery Magazine on page 16 of the October 1952 issue.... The date can be seen at the bottom of the page...

Yes, the Master List needs to be corrected to read 1952 for the LaFond's 2 blade shown...

   (http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/WadePhillips/LAFONDS2.jpg)
Title: Re: 1952 Broadheads
Post by: SlowBowke on February 20, 2011, 03:34:00 AM
Thanks to all.

The Lafonds is (TO ME!) not much different from a lot of heads even made today.

I wasn't aware of the multiple versions. Knew of the "ripper" style and the standard.

Interesting as always.

God Bless.
Title: Re: 1952 Broadheads
Post by: Shane Reed on January 12, 2014, 03:43:00 AM
My Brother picked this one up, and I just looked the head up on line. 1952 Lafond's Lightning? Saw a barbed version on another site.

  (http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad215/mrgq4126/100_4234.jpg) (http://s937.photobucket.com/user/mrgq4126/media/100_4234.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 1952 Broadheads
Post by: Rick Enos on January 12, 2014, 08:11:00 AM
 (http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv166/renos53/100_2815.jpg) (http://s680.photobucket.com/user/renos53/media/100_2815.jpg.html)


Here are some Lafond heads I picked up a while ago.
Title: Re: 1952 Broadheads
Post by: Ray Lyon on January 13, 2014, 08:09:00 AM
when was the 3 bladed Hill Hornet I believe that Bear Archery offered in the pre-Bear Razorhead days come out??