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Title: draw hand.
Post by: swampthing on November 05, 2014, 08:15:00 PM
Heres one. The draw hand. At full draw. Try it without a bow. Just simulate your form at full draw, double anchor and all. Why is it that when you are standing up straight your draw hand naturally wants to rotate so that the back of that hand wants to face up?  What gives? You are fighting natural body mechanics...
Title: Re: draw hand.
Post by: Diamond Paul on November 05, 2014, 08:46:00 PM
That's true, although I don't know how else you would anchor with fingers.  You see many guys with hand-held release aids on compounds anchor at the corner of the jaw with the top of the hand facing up, just as you say, because it is the more natural position.  Unless you could shoot with the bow horizontal all the time that wouldn't fly with fingers.  Perhaps that's one reason we all have to work really hard to achieve a relaxed hand and just let the string push it away:  the position tends to make it tense naturally.  Interesting observation. . .
Title: Re: draw hand.
Post by: swampthing on November 05, 2014, 08:58:00 PM
Can't be good for the elbow tendons...
Title: Re: draw hand.
Post by: Diamond Paul on November 05, 2014, 09:15:00 PM
Maybe that's why mine are hurting.  It's either that or the pull-ups I'm doing to work into a heavier bow!
Title: Re: draw hand.
Post by: moebow on November 05, 2014, 09:40:00 PM
IF  your forearm, wrist and hand are RELAXED (!!!) then the string turns the hand AND aligns it where it needs to be.  Let the string do the work.  Then there is NO "tendon" tension and no reason for injury.

Usually what I see is those that tend to have the back of the hand up as described, there is gobs of tension in the forearm and also frequently the string is twisted by the fingers.  This CAN lead to poor release execution.

Arne
Title: Re: draw hand.
Post by: swampthing on November 06, 2014, 04:56:00 AM
Working on that, is it acceptable to have tension build in the draw shoulder, especially in the front deltoid? Or are we aiming to have a tension free, reasonable so, dynamic draw. One that does not emphasize squeezing into full draw???
Title: Re: draw hand.
Post by: moebow on November 06, 2014, 09:50:00 AM
The tension should build in the back of the deltoid, not the front.  AND the lower trapezious and rhomboids.  Try to remain as relaxed as possible on the front side of the upper body.

Try to think levering your bones into the bow  and not "squeezing" anything.  Move bones, don't try to activate individual muscles.

Arne
Title: Re: draw hand.
Post by: swampthing on November 06, 2014, 06:51:00 PM
I'm on it...
Title: Re: draw hand.
Post by: swampthing on November 15, 2014, 09:36:00 AM
A lot closer, but still have a little tension in that fore-arm....Transitioning the pull into the back is a little easier with the lighter bow I will say..
Title: Re: draw hand.
Post by: tracker12 on November 25, 2014, 09:51:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by moebow:
The tension should build in the back of the deltoid, not the front.  AND the lower trapezious and rhomboids.  Try to remain as relaxed as possible on the front side of the upper body.

Try to think levering your bones into the bow  and not "squeezing" anything.  Move bones, don't try to activate individual muscles.

Arne
Boy when I get this right my shooting really improves.  For me my front deltoids always want to take over.