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Title: Need some form advice (video added)
Post by: mountain lion on January 09, 2013, 07:20:00 PM
Ok, I've been having some problems, I can't hit where I'm looking. I feel that something has changed in my shooting and I don't know what. When I come to full draw and hit my anchor I can feel my bow arm come up, or I think it's my bow arm, not for sure. And  I consistently shoot high and right no matter what I do, am I collapsing or what. can some please give me their ideas of what I'm doing! Thank you    http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg628/moutainlion/37346A31-EF3F-4CEC-9904-ACC589A122B7-17602-00001FEB7EFDAF03.mp4
Title: Re: Need some form advice (video added)
Post by: chachamooby on January 09, 2013, 10:10:00 PM
Make sure you are pulling through with back tension. Sounds like your concentrating on your anchor a lot and becoming "static" before release. You only have to be moving minutely--but moving.
Hope this helps--I'm no expert but experienced a similar "temporary setback" with the high rights  :)
Title: Re: Need some form advice (video added)
Post by: moebow on January 09, 2013, 10:19:00 PM
ml,

Not enough Info!  Right or left handed?  "Bow arm come up??"  "But not sure??"  High and right could be caused by any number of things.

You found out that just trying to describe what is happening is hard.  It's even harder to help from a verbal description.  Please post a video or two showing your shot, that will help us help you.

Arne
Title: Re: Need some form advice (video added)
Post by: Stumpkiller on January 10, 2013, 12:07:00 AM
Have you tried push-pull?  Push the bow towards the target with your bow hand and pull the arrow back with your draw hand.  (as opposed to a straight-arm swing & draw).

It's odd to be lifting the bow arm.  More often I see guys trying to see the shot that raise their head while dropping their bow arm during release.

If you have a kenetic release make sure you are pulling your elbow straight back as you release.  

Do you have the ability to film yourself?  That can be enlightening.
Title: Re: Need some form advice (video added)
Post by: Terry Green on January 10, 2013, 09:45:00 AM
VIDEO is the 1st treatment for cure....   :campfire:
Title: Re: Need some form advice (video added)
Post by: mountain lion on January 10, 2013, 10:03:00 AM
I will try and post a video tonight, thanks!
Title: Re: Need some form advice (video added)
Post by: moebow on January 10, 2013, 08:10:00 PM
ml,

You have a lot of really good things going for you. A lot of the basics are good.  Try to maintain them as you work on what I suggest below.

I do now see what you are talking about.  When you raise the bow to draw, you are also lifting your shoulders (both of them like a shrug).  What you want to do is lift the bow arm and string arm but keep the shoulders down in a relaxed position.  Right now, you look like you are trying to cover your ears (to warm them) with your shoulders.

Try this.  Before your lift to draw, lift your shoulders as though you were shrugging.  Then let them relax down to a natural relaxed position. NOW!! KEEP them there!!  Lift the hands with arms/deltoids only -- BUT KEEP THE SHOULDERS DOWN!!  This will also be easier if you can keep your head up more -- don't bend your head over and down so much.  It should be straight up on top of your spine.

Your description of the raising bow arm is correct and is caused by the very high shoulders you end up with as you start to draw.  It puts your bow arm shoulder socket in a weak position and when you release, the ONLY thing your bow arm can do is move down.

Until you "get" this, stand tall, head up with shoulders down and make the shot (this will probably increase your draw length too) .  Once you start to feel comfortable with this(month or two!), then will be the time to experiment with a "hunting crouch" but not yet.

Arne
Title: Re: Need some form advice (video added)
Post by: mountain lion on January 11, 2013, 07:10:00 PM
Thanks a lot Arne, your advice really helped!