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Title: Nock High no matter what!!
Post by: TDHunter on June 02, 2011, 09:15:00 PM
I've been paper testing as I've never had real good flight. I get a upwards tear (nock high).  I played with my knocking point moving it up and down. played with arrows from .500 spine to .320 spine , from 500 gr to 680gr. with every thing from 150 to 350 up front and all I get is the same upward tear (~ 2inch).
53lbs @28      

Same tear no matter what!
Title: Re: Nock High no matter what!!
Post by: Lee Lobbestael on June 02, 2011, 10:51:00 PM
I am no expert but In masters of the barebow 2 in the section on arrow tuning the fellow says that some people will always get nock high arrow flight because of the torque they put on the string when drawing. Now i'll wait and see what the experts have to say!
Title: Re: Nock High no matter what!!
Post by: Steve O on June 02, 2011, 11:42:00 PM
A soft tied in nock point below your nock may help that problem.
Title: Re: Nock High no matter what!!
Post by: TDHunter on June 03, 2011, 12:00:00 AM
I'll give anything a try!    my guess was the torque I put on the string. I notice my ring finger builds mass callus and my other two fingers don't get much of anything.
Title: Re: Nock High no matter what!!
Post by: TDHunter on June 03, 2011, 01:19:00 AM
I added the soft tied nock point and ended up adding another 75 gr. up front and they look like they are flying a like missiles.

Thanks Gents
Title: Re: Nock High no matter what!!
Post by: Steve O on June 03, 2011, 11:07:00 AM
Fantastic!
Title: Re: Nock High no matter what!!
Post by: akdd on June 03, 2011, 02:22:00 PM
I was having the same problem with a recurve. I had tried everything and then I raised the brace height 1/2 inch. That cured my problem.
Title: Re: Nock High no matter what!!
Post by: Jim Wright on June 03, 2011, 10:33:00 PM
It's probable that you are shooting with your draw arm elbow too high. If so, you can improve your form and make your ring finger very happy by bringing your elbow down to where it is in line with the arrow.
Title: Re: Nock High no matter what!!
Post by: Jim Keller on June 04, 2011, 07:21:00 AM
I had to pad my shelf up a little and my side plate a little. This took care of it for me. My arrows were bouncing off the corner of the shelf. Steve Gorr of Cascade Archery suggested it and he was right on. Glad you got good flight. I know how frustrating it is.
Title: Re: Nock High no matter what!!
Post by: big grey on June 04, 2011, 08:49:00 PM
akdd is spot on.Rasing the brace height will weaken the shaft just enough, this is to fine tune it don`t go crazy a 1/16 or an 1/8 should do it.Sorry I should read more carfully a 2" tear is not a fine tune nock high tear
Title: Re: Nock High no matter what!!
Post by: Dave Earley on June 04, 2011, 09:14:00 PM
how about some detail on that "soft tied nock point" - is it immediately below the brass nock point, thus above the nock, and somehow the "softness" is beneficial to arrow flight, or is it a second nock point, thus below the nock when arrow is on the string ?

thanks
Title: Re: Nock High no matter what!!
Post by: Steve O on June 04, 2011, 11:24:00 PM
I was having the same issue a couple weeks ago.  I put a brass nock below my arrow when nocked.  I had to leave quite a gap so as not to pinch my arrow nock.  A buddy had me remove the lower brass nock and tie one in almost touching with dental floss.  The soft nock "gives" where the brass would bind.
Title: Re: Nock High no matter what!!
Post by: Bowmania on June 06, 2011, 06:55:00 PM
Think of this.  When you nock is too low the back end of the arrow hits the shelf and kicks it up making it look nock high.  Put on two nocking points.

Bowmania
Title: Re: Nock High no matter what!!
Post by: Brett Wilmore on June 20, 2011, 04:13:00 PM
What Jim Wright said describes my issue with the same vertical tears.  When I fight VERY hard to draw low and hold a lower elbow, my arrows tune true and I can feel the difference in my (calloused) ring finger!  Thanks Jim!