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Title: i like bow hand slippage why don't you
Post by: davesonic444 on January 20, 2010, 11:30:00 AM
i like the grip of a bow to slide into place and don't like any thing to impede this.Like rubber dots on gloves or suede leather gloves or wraps on the bow.
I am interested in hearing from those with opposing veiw and reasons why they prefer a secure grip to the bow.
Title: Re: i like bow hand slippage why don't you
Post by: Terry Green on January 20, 2010, 11:38:00 AM
Not very humid up there is it?   :D
Title: Re: i like bow hand slippage why don't you
Post by: robtattoo on January 20, 2010, 12:03:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:
Not very humid up there is it?    :D  
So true! I was exactly the same until I moved here. Once the temperature gets into the 90s & the humidity matches, a rubber grip is the way forward!
Title: Re: i like bow hand slippage why don't you
Post by: LP Kelley on January 20, 2010, 12:32:00 PM
Back in the early 70's I was shooting on a hot and very humid day. I had my 58lb heavy riser Jack Howard Gamemaster at full draw when my hand slipped clockwise somehow in a millisecond the bow slipped off my thumb and came straight back and hit me almost right between the eye brows. It didn't knock me out, but the gash that the bow put there was visible for many years. Now old age wrinkles have kinda covered it up.

Slippery grips on a hot humid day still make me a little bit nervous.
Title: Re: i like bow hand slippage why don't you
Post by: McDave on January 20, 2010, 01:13:00 PM
Like Dave, I like the bow to move around in my bow hand.  In fact I only grip it with my thumb and forefinger, which helps me to get the bow into allignment with my string hand to eliminate string torque (although I wouldn't like the bow to slip out of my grip and bop me in the nose!).  How do those of you who use a rubber grip or other more positive ways of gripping the bow avoid torqueing the string?  It's hard for me to feel when I'm putting a slight sideways force on the string with my string fingers, and usually the first evidence I have of it is when the arrow misses to the left.
Title: Re: i like bow hand slippage why don't you
Post by: Ragnarok Forge on January 20, 2010, 01:16:00 PM
I have to say that I am with the original poster on wanting a bit of slide in the hand to help settle the bow, but the worst humidity we get up here is normally 35%.  Southern shooters sound like they need more friction to keep the bow from sliding to much.
Title: Re: i like bow hand slippage why don't you
Post by: reddogge on January 20, 2010, 04:37:00 PM
You ever shoot a 3-D round in August in MD?  Too much slippery isn't good.
Title: Re: i like bow hand slippage why don't you
Post by: kuch on January 20, 2010, 05:24:00 PM
i have recently gotten a riser checkered and won't shoot any thing else.the extra bit of tactile cuing i get from the checkering helps me have the same grip position each time ....and it helps on hot days.
Title: Re: i like bow hand slippage why don't you
Post by: davesonic444 on January 21, 2010, 07:23:00 PM
yes it can and does get very humid here in the ohio valley. I've not found humidity to be any more issue than shooting in the rain. You who like less slipage, do you wear gloves on your bowhand while hunting? I have a problem getting a consistant grip with your setup while wearing gloves .
Title: Re: i like bow hand slippage why don't you
Post by: Quinn on January 23, 2010, 07:22:00 AM
Depends on how you shoot. If you're not torquing the bow, a little non-slip on the grip is probably a good thing. If you're torquing you either gotta figure out how not to or you gotta lose that grip helper. I had to lose the grip helper for awhile.
Title: Re: i like bow hand slippage why don't you
Post by: Rob DiStefano on February 08, 2010, 08:02:00 PM
slippin' 'n' slidin' the grip is not good - you want a consistently placed grip that won't move ...or slip!  consistent, repeatable hand/grip is a cornerstone of archery form.
Title: Re: i like bow hand slippage why don't you
Post by: vtmtnman on February 08, 2010, 08:32:00 PM
Yeah,I would never want my bow to slide around in my hand.How could you repeat a shot if the grip is different from the last shot.

I agree with Rob.
Title: Re: i like bow hand slippage why don't you
Post by: davesonic444 on February 09, 2010, 11:34:00 AM
Maybe its the way the grip fits my hand. It slips into place as i start to draw and remains there until i release.No torque to the bow on my part.
Title: Re: i like bow hand slippage why don't you
Post by: Kurt Miller on February 20, 2010, 11:26:00 PM
I think I am similar to davesonic.  At least what I hear him say and what I find is that for me, the bow isn't slip slidin once drawn, it kinda slides into place as begin adding tension during draw, so it always slides to the same spot that draw forces naturally put it vs. where I decide to grip it and maybe torque.  Does that make sense?  I certainly can improve all aspects of my form so it is good to hear input from some very obviously talented posters ( too bad I seem to be opposite of so many of them   :(  )
Title: Re: i like bow hand slippage why don't you
Post by: tradtusker on February 21, 2010, 03:52:00 AM
Personally iv always like the Rubber sure grip on my bows. From - figures in Colorado to 100+ in Australia i like that bow grip to stay exactly where i want it.
I make sure my hand placement is correct when i grip the bow and then dont have to think about it after that.
Title: Re: i like bow hand slippage why don't you
Post by: Ben Maher on February 21, 2010, 04:13:00 AM
good repeatable grip for me ...
Title: Re: i like bow hand slippage why don't you
Post by: Jesse Peltan on February 21, 2010, 04:31:00 PM
I like a high grip with finger locators built for me because my hand goes in the same place every time.  That style also wont slip even with a very slippy riser but I still like to put a leather grip on it.
Title: Re: i like bow hand slippage why don't you
Post by: crandog on February 22, 2010, 11:53:00 PM
I don't get it.  Some say yes, some say no.  Larry Yien mentions if your hand was wet or sweaty and would go into a grip as deep as possible that's were you should always be.  Excuse me I have to go take my pill.
Title: Re: i like bow hand slippage why don't you
Post by: Bowwild on February 24, 2010, 07:49:00 PM
A friction-inducing grip will promote excessive torque at release. Some target archers will even put vaseline on their bowhand to make sure the hand and grip don't stick. Under hot/humid (sweat-inducing) conditions I'd simply keep my hand and bow grip dry.  The textured grips and wraps some use would require a very relaxed bowhand and perfect follow through to prevent torque. Of course some have adjusted their aim/sights to compensate for torque.

Wow, I hope I can get that picture Kelley painted about the bow slipping and hitting him out of my mind. I can see how that could happen -- ouch. I thought only my rifle pals had to worry about "scope brow"!