i shoot recurve 52@27 using 2018. 2 blade magnus shoot with field points but 3 blade woodsmen dive spin true played with nock point doesnt get any better
That's odd. They usually shoot like darts for me. Have you tried turning the broadhead to line the blades up with your fletching? Some guys say that helps. I've never seen much difference though.
How long is your arrow? 2018 might be a little stiff with a 150 if you draw 27. I shoot a 29 1/2" 1916 with a WW and get great flight. That is from my 51 @ 28 Kanati. 2016's are about the same. I even loaded up a 2016 with 1/4 rope for a total weight of 700 gr. and it still flies great to 20 yards from the Kanati.
no i havent tried lining up the blades . 2018 shoot very well for me 2016 shoot weak
One thing is for sure...If both BH's are the same weight and straight, it's NOT the BH's fault...Something else is amiss. Woodsman's being so narrow are very tolerant of poor tuning so for them to be behaving that way indicates a bad tuning problem of some kind. How tight are your nocks and what tuning method are you using to determine your tuning is good?....O.L.
im using planning 3bare /3fletched.i can twist my string with arrow nocked and it rotates with out moving arrow
Chub, Can you point it down and tap the string and they fall off? If not, they are too tight. Being able to rotate doesn't tell you anything if it has to snap over a hump. Also using a nock point above and below the arrow is a good idea. About the only other thing that would cause BH's to dive is nock point. You said you tried that. Nock too high or too low either one will cause diving. the latter is the tail end of the arrow hitting the shelf. What distance are you doing all this? 20 yards is the minimum, 25-30 is good, 100 is better! :) ....O.L.
o.l. i hava been planning 15/20 yrds iv been shooting the same distance trying to get fieldtips/bh'S to tune the same iv been outside shooting playing with brace ht and nock pt alsolined up feathers w blades shooting app 5"group at 20 i will check nocks thanks O.l
I tried a 2018 and had the same dive you are talking about. It hit below my 3d deer target. WW's will slice right through a field point target! Ouch!! 2016's and 1916's slam home with regularity, so I just stick with them. I've never had a problem with either shooting weak. Jason Kendall (JK Bows) recommended 1916's, which he shoots through his 52# Kanati. I figured if they worked for him they'd work for me.
I can't explain it either, but O.L. should be able to help you get them tuned if anyone can.
@O.L.
Why a nockpoint below and above? What is the advantage?
I use an above and below nock point as well. I find that if I'm in a hurry when I shoot with just an above nock point I tend to put to much pressure below the nock which throws of the arrow. With two nock points I know I don't need to touch the nock at all so I don't when my fingers go to the string. I like it and have no intention of switching to a single nock point.
Something I do during my release that will slide the arrow down the string if I don't use a nock set above and below. Too much pressure on one finger or the other? Can't say cause can't watch my fingers fast enough! :) What ever it is nock above and below stops it. Nock position is critical, just 1/32" is the difference between good flight and poor. I figure if I do something to cause that others might do so as well! :) ...O.L.
o.l. i have heard of 2 nock points using 2 does it matter if i shoot 3under or split
Chub, No, not at all. I shoot split and my wife shoots 3 under with one above and below. And she's left handed..It's a mixed marrage! :) ....O.L.
@ O.L. & Dozer
Thank you very much!
Hi all, first time poster by the way.
I get the same thing from the woodsmen, I like the stingers right now but going to try cedar shafts and im going to start with the 2 blade magnus for that reason.
My two setups are 45@30 SS tomahawk and 63@30 robertsons praie falcon. 3 under tab and 600g arrow on the long bow 730 arrow in the recurve.
Most broadheads dont bother me the way they fly for some reason these do drop on me, in a cross wind it can be real bad.
I had the same issue this year and after I missed my elk I shot into a dirt pile and my broadheads were diving into the earth. I was shooting a selfbow and as OL was saying I tuned that thing up and the same arrows shot like darts. The very next day I took my deer still chasing my elk. Good luck