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Title: form video. please tear apart!
Post by: deermaster1 on March 27, 2008, 09:23:00 AM
http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk307/deermaster1/?action=view¤t=102_0263.flv
http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk307/deermaster1/?action=view¤t=102_0266.flv
http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk307/deermaster1/?action=view¤t=102_0268.flv
http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk307/deermaster1/?action=view¤t=102_0269.flv  
 
 
 
i am working on my shooting style and form. my usual perfect conditions shot is to snapshoot.  draw into my anchor and realease.  but i knew i needed to be able to hold so i worked on it last night and came up with something that really works for me.  i draw, stop about 1" short of my anchor, and burn a hole in the spot i am aiming at.  i SLOWLY continue to draw the last 1", taking however long is necessary.  as soon as my knuckle clicks into my anchor, the arrow is on its way.  do you folks think this is a good method of "holding"?  please tell anything that looks out of place.  thanks for any help!
Title: Re: form video. please tear apart!
Post by: deermaster1 on March 27, 2008, 09:25:00 AM
you will see in some i snapshoot and some i hold as i described using the method above, to practice for various situations.  just didnt want you to think i had an inconsistent shot sequence.  thanks for any tips!
Title: Re: form video. please tear apart!
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on March 27, 2008, 11:45:00 AM
vid #1 I would have bent at the waste a little more... try and keep the letter "T"

Vid #2 try and bring your drawning elbow back more.. Work your back.

Vid #3 same as Vid #2

Vid #4 same as Vid #1.

Really good shooting just need more work, but then again who doesn't need to work more om form.
Title: Re: form video. please tear apart!
Post by: deermaster1 on March 27, 2008, 12:17:00 PM
i put the videos backwards on this thread going 4-1....lol. so are you refering to the video numbers in order in this thread or by the title on photo bucket?  thanks for the tips, my stupidity just confused me.  thanks again
Title: Re: form video. please tear apart!
Post by: deermaster1 on March 27, 2008, 12:23:00 PM
ok i fixed the problem, they are numbered the same in the thread and on photobucket.  sorry about the confusion....
Title: Re: form video. please tear apart!
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on March 27, 2008, 12:36:00 PM
I was just going from top to bottom the way you linked them...
Title: Re: form video. please tear apart!
Post by: deermaster1 on March 27, 2008, 12:37:00 PM
thanks!
Title: Re: form video. please tear apart!
Post by: laddy on March 27, 2008, 02:01:00 PM
One minor thing, you are using a swing draw form, that is good.  The Hill scenario is, bow hand comes up slightly faster than the drawing hand so that the last 6 to 8 inches is straight back.  The tendancy for many is to develop a raise until the release type draw.  My wife started doing this and it strained her shoulders because of the rotation under stress. The Hill draw minimizes the distance of motion and the rotation under stress for the drawing shoulder.
Title: Re: form video. please tear apart!
Post by: cvarcher on March 27, 2008, 04:28:00 PM
Looks pretty good. You are at anchor and I think theres back tension on the release.One thing I see though is your bow hand right after release tilts the bow forward .I think the bow needs to be heeled evenly in your hand .Watch the video of your bow hand at release to see it. Bow should stay right there and hardly move. Also make sure your shoulder alingnemnt to the target is spot on.I think the rest is very nice.
Title: Re: form video. please tear apart!
Post by: AkDan on March 29, 2008, 03:01:00 PM
Dunno if I'd get in the habit of stopping short and then creeping to full.   Noticed on one a short draw, not a good thing to get into.  Tp is likely to follow if you do!  

Also seemed like you want to dead release it, then on the other hand you're trying to pull through.....
Title: Re: form video. please tear apart!
Post by: Joe M on March 31, 2008, 10:28:00 PM
I agree with AkDan.  I don't believe it's a good idea to get into the habit of stopping short in your draw then trying to make up for that final inch.

It may seem to work right now, but I do think as your shooting continues throughout the day that you'll find yourself 'short pulling' the string.

By this I mean, that it could result in bringing your anchor point forward (your head) rather then pulling your string to your established anchor point (corner of the mouth)

Hope that make sense.  :)
Title: Re: form video. please tear apart!
Post by: Terry Green on March 31, 2008, 11:14:00 PM
Looking good......nothing to 'tear apart'...but something worth noting.......

I'll post tomorrow morning my thoughts....
Title: Re: form video. please tear apart!
Post by: Terry Green on April 01, 2008, 08:02:00 AM
I see your stop...and that's not really a problem...I know a couple of  guys that 3/4 draw from the get go, then finish the draw after a pause....both of them are good shots and heck on game.

What I do see is inconsistancy in your anchor and release.  I think that will come with time....but you really need to come to full draw, and do it every time.  By not getting full extention, you are cheating yourself out of power and accuracy, as your draw length is shortened and you don't have proper back tension. Also, by not getting to a solid anchor, your consistancy will not be solid either.  

Some of your short drawing is coming from you leaning forward, curving your spine, and poking your head forward.  All those move your anchor forward, shortening your draw length.  

I think the comments above will be rather easy to fix, but its going to take more than just a couple of sessions....you gotta get it right, and burn it in.

If you can, set up the target at shoulder level and film again, and make sure you get your bowhand and your drawing elbow in the frame, and post it here.

I thin
Title: Re: form video. please tear apart!
Post by: deermaster1 on April 01, 2008, 10:02:00 AM
thanks for all the comments.  definitly some things to try and work on. ill practice a while longer with these comments in mind and then post another video.