I know that many stones can be used with the KME sharpener, but I was just wondering what stones some of you guys prefer to sharpen with for Grizzly broadheads? I am considering a DMT diamond stone, but wasn't sure exactly which one may be the best for the job.
If i bought a dmt i would get the xtra coarse as that stone is where i spend the majority of my time when getting the initial angle. I would spend the extra $ and get widest one. Once you get the burr with the coarse stone, medium and fine stones will do the rest. I finish w stropping on cardboard. Best of luck.
I have great KME success with a piece of glass and different sandpaper grits on top of the glass starting at 400 grit and going up 600, 800, 1000 etc. all the way you to 2000 grit. Shape your edge with the coarse grit and polish from there. Way better than stones for me and I've tried both!
I use a KME knife sharpener to do my broadheads. I originally got stones with the kit. I was not able to make them work well (I am very sharpening challenged), so I tried the diamond stones from my GATCO sharpener (very similar to a Lansky). That was the ticket for me, and now I get my broadheads really sharp.
What was mentioned above about the coarse stone was correct also! I got a 100grit diamond stone from KME, and it is always first on heads I have never sharpened before, to get the angle right.
Bisch
I bought a super cheap set of Diamond stones on auction sight that were wide enough for the head to be covered in one pass. Whatever you do, don't press hard at all on the stone, let the diamonds do the work! If you haven't bought the sharpener yet, I think the knife model with diamond stones is a better choice and get the xxc added to what comes with the kit!
I agree with old_goat2. I have both sets of stones for my KME knife sharpener and I think the diamond stones are far superior. Once you get the bevel right with the coarse stone, you probably won't need to use it again unless you hit a rock and need to fix the edge again. I generally do 5 strokes on each side with the medium stone and then 5 with the fine stone. Then I'll run the blade over a leather strop a few times to get that "scary" sharp edge.
Darren
Thanks for the advice. I already have the KME for the broadheads, so I'm really wanting it to work out. My thought was the same on having the diamond stones wide enough to cover in one pass. I don't want to have to work back and forth on a narrow stone. I'm thinking about getting the DMT double sided stones that way I can have the extra coarse, coarse, fine, and extra fine.
QuoteOriginally posted by JakeD:
Thanks for the advice. I already have the KME for the broadheads, so I'm really wanting it to work out. My thought was the same on having the diamond stones wide enough to cover in one pass. I don't want to have to work back and forth on a narrow stone. I'm thinking about getting the DMT double sided stones that way I can have the extra coarse, coarse, fine, and extra fine.
Those are the stones I use, double layer. Also have the 120 micron dmt dia-sharp stone, very aggressive making setting the angle much easier. All are wide enough to cover entire head in one pass without having to curve the path.
Is there anyone who prefers the KMR Knife sharpener for broadheads? I'm looking to get something for broadheads and trying to decide between the two.
QuoteOriginally posted by texbow2:
Is there anyone who prefers the KMR Knife sharpener for broadheads? I'm looking to get something for broadheads and trying to decide between the two.
I do and I own both. What I prefer now though is 2 separate 1x30" belt sanders, one with a 400 grit belt and one with a leather strop belt, I can get a blade from setting the grind to shaving sharp in less than a minute
Ok, got a question about sharpening the grizzlies. Using the KME, it's wanting to sharpen the center of the broadheads, but its not touching the tip or the back of the head. Anybody have any advice on what I need to do to get it evenly sharpened?
QuoteOriginally posted by JakeD:
Ok, got a question about sharpening the grizzlies. Using the KME, it's wanting to sharpen the center of the broadheads, but its not touching the tip or the back of the head. Anybody have any advice on what I need to do to get it evenly sharpened?
Yeah, just keep going! Setting the initial grind is super tedious and don't be tempted to push down hard, it can just make it worse! Coarsest stone you got and be careful you don't give yourself repetitive motion injury!
I have it set at the steepest angle and it's taking off enough of the edge that it's actually getting into the body of the kme. I feel like I'm doing something wrong here, but I don't know what it could be. It seems pretty straightforward, but apparently something isn't going right.
QuoteOriginally posted by JakeD:
I have it set at the steepest angle and it's taking off enough of the edge that it's actually getting into the body of the kme. I feel like I'm doing something wrong here, but I don't know what it could be. It seems pretty straightforward, but apparently something isn't going right.
You went to set the head so the Jaws are as far towards the back of the broadhead as they can be and still hold it securely, and you want the point you go with to be repeatable so you set your broadhead in the same place every time. A little change either left or right changes the angle a minute amount, I'm guessing you have the knife model, you want up use the angled jaws for broadheads
QuoteOriginally posted by JakeD:
Ok, got a question about sharpening the grizzlies. Using the KME, it's wanting to sharpen the center of the broadheads, but its not touching the tip or the back of the head. Anybody have any advice on what I need to do to get it evenly sharpened?
If your sharpening stone is flat,your broadhead blade is warped.That's easy to check with a good, steel,straight edge.If you keep going till the entire edge contacts the stone,you will take a lot of grains off the broadhead AND wear yourself out.I would first try rolling the broadhead left to right while sharpening,like you would with a convex edge like a Bear Razorhead and see if you can contact the entire edge that way.
This WAS a great thread on using the kme before Photobucket went full idiot, the pictures don't show anymore, I wish the original author would update the thread via imgur photo share
http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000115#000000
There is another sharpener that is fantastic for broad heads at far less cost but it can't be mentioned here without being deleted.
old_goat2,that was me.
Here is one I did for Vintage Archery and it's still working:
http://www.singlebevelbroadheads.com/Honing%20the%20Tuffhead.html
Get the extra coarse/coarse DMT bench stone with holder. I got the 10" one and have used it for years. That is all you need. To finish use a piece of 600 grit sandpaper on top of the stone to get hair popping sharp.
Whatever you do, DO NOT USE PRESSURE on the diamond stone, the weight of the jig and broadheadand your hand is all you need. Pushing down with remove the diamonds from the stone.
I use the kme knife sharpener with the dmt alinger stone holder. I make one little change that makes a difference in how sharp you get the blade. Go to the hobby shop and get a piece 5/32" aluminum or brass tubing and slide over the shaft on the dmt aliner and it will fit the bushing on the Kme. I cut the tubing about 1/8" longer than the shaft and chamfer the end so it will enter the bushing easier. I also polish the tube abit. You also need to clean the bushing once in awhile as it gets grit in it. Sharpest knives and broadheads I have sharpened using the setup. Jim
KME knife sharpener with x-course, course, fine and extra fine and diamond stones all. Also leather strops with the potion. Lasts a long time and takes a little additional initial effort but once the grind is solid, touch up is a breeze. Advice above on too much pressure with diamond stones is spot on.
QuoteOriginally posted by old_goat2:
This WAS a great thread on using the kme before Photobucket went full idiot, the pictures don't show anymore, I wish the original author would update the thread via imgur photo share
http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000115#000000
If you are having trouble seeing the Photobucket pictures and are using Google Chrome for a browser go to "tools" or "more tools" and then select extensions. go to the bottom and select "get more extension". You'll be taken to the chrome web store. Search "Photobucket embed fix". install this and you should be able to view the pictures again.
Good luck.