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Title: One Bow?
Post by: BWallace10327 on January 19, 2018, 08:39:00 PM
Sometimes it seems the popular opinion is that of "the archer with one bow knows how to use it".   I don't believe that.  I am interested in finding out what Tradgang thinks on the matter.  

It is my belief that accurate, or lack of, shooting is rooted in the archers technique and aquired habits, regardless of how many bows they shoot.  

So, Tradgang, what do you have to say on the matter?
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: Gdpolk on January 19, 2018, 10:03:00 PM
Accuracy is the result of consistency and proper tuning of your equipment with all shooting sports, archery included. As traditional archers we have fewer crutches than many other types of shooter and therefore have to be more consistent with less input from our equipment than other shooters and the shooter is always going to the the biggest source of error in our sport. That said, it's easier for us to learn and master one bow than many so I do feel most of us would benefit from being a one bow shooter.
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: kevsuperg on January 19, 2018, 10:10:00 PM
I agree, although I can switch between most of my bows and shoot pretty well, it takes time to train my brain to which style I'm using. Recurve, high wrist, longbow, low wrist, etc.  
If I stick to one bow only , I get in that groove much faster. I don't have to think about the mechanics cuz it's the same Everytime.
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: texbow2 on January 19, 2018, 10:52:00 PM
I switch between my 4 hunting recurves pretty frequently, but they all are within a few lbs or each other and have a similar grip and are all tuned to the same arrow. I'll shoot whatever I;m hunting with exclusively for a few days before hunting.
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: Sam McMichael on January 20, 2018, 10:49:00 AM
I believe that the accuracy is in the archer. I know a bunch of guys with multiple bows who are fine shots. Granted, it may take a few shots to readjust to a bow that hasn't been shot in a while, but once that adjustment is made, nocks begin to break again. There may be individual bows that an archer just doesn't shoot well, but I don't think it proves that having only one bow makes a person a better archer.

I think a lot of those "one bow only" guys would still shoot just as well if they owned and used additional bows.
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: McDave on January 20, 2018, 11:43:00 AM
I think in the end, it comes down to economics, and that most people would have more than one bow if traditional archery is their main avocation and if they could afford it.  Because of that, I would feel guilty advocating that a person have more than one bow, since I am blessed with adequate retirement income and can afford it, while many others who may be more deserving are not.  You can have plenty of fun and hunt with only one bow, if it is a reasonably good bow that is reasonably well matched to your strength and drawlength.  The nice thing about trad archery is that you can hunt elk, squirrels, pheasant, and fish, and also compete with the same bow, which would be difficult or impossible to do with one gun.

Having more than one bow affords you the opportunity to compare bows, and have a bow that is a little more specialized for each of the activities I mention above, or maybe to find that one perfect bow that suits you better than any other.  However, from experience, I would also say that finding that one perfect bow is like searching for the Holy Grail, or that one perfect woman.  Maybe it would be better to change yourself to better fit the one you already have.
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: Bldtrailer on January 20, 2018, 01:09:00 PM
1 Wife yes   :readit:   , 1 Bow Never    :banghead:   life is to short! How I  keep things reasonable is having most of my bows very close in draw weight at my draw length, thus I can use the same arrows for several bows with only minor changes such as point weight.  But as hunting season nears I pick the bow I have been  shooting   :archer:   Dyes this year it was my Silvertip
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: Bill Turner on January 20, 2018, 01:23:00 PM
"Bldtrailer" above is a man after my own heart. Could not have said it better myself.   :campfire:
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: ChuckC on January 20, 2018, 01:57:00 PM
With all the above having been said, it still makes perfect sense that using one bow could lend itself to getting more used to its needs and becoming better at using it.   Why not ?    But many of us want to own more than one bow...and again, why not ?   Just make it a point to get good enough to do what you need to.  If you cannot shoot well at 50 yards....don't.   Many here shoot deer every year at less than ten yards.  Most can get accurate enough at ten to get er done.
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: mahantango on January 20, 2018, 05:20:00 PM
For me, the only real difference is in trajectory. To that end, I tune all my bows/arrows to the same point-on. From 30# target recurve to 55# hunting longbow, very little if any adjustment.
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: bear mike on January 20, 2018, 05:37:00 PM
I own a few different bows but I seem to shoot my northern mist whisper more than the others. When I do shoot the others I have a hard time shooting the whisper the first few shots. So with that being said anyone person never has too many tho
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: Orion on January 20, 2018, 08:20:00 PM
I don't know a champion in anything that has only one of the tools of his/her trade.  Tennis players have multiple rackets, baseball players multiple bats, top trap and skeet shooters more than one gun, etc.  

At the least, one would want a back-up. And, those really looking to up their game are always experimenting with the latest version out there.
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: Stumpkiller on January 20, 2018, 10:22:00 PM
I have many bows.  Each year I pick one after deer season closes and that is the bow I will shoot until the process repeats a year later.

For me, I do better shooting one bow and not alternating between many.
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: dbd870 on January 21, 2018, 09:18:00 AM
Poll results are correct
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: Red Beastmaster on January 21, 2018, 04:00:00 PM
I can shoot any bow fair after a few shots. If I want to shoot great I will stick with one for awhile.
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: Stumpkiller on January 21, 2018, 08:00:00 PM
I have bows between 35# and 65# and if I just grab one and shoot my "elevation" will likely be off.  

I shoot a fairly heavy arrow (600 to 620 gr) and I have to burn the trajectory in the back of my brain.  So shooting one bow regularly does that for me.
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: YosemiteSam on January 22, 2018, 12:34:00 PM
I'll lean toward the "accuracy is in the shooter" end of the spectrum.  But only within reasonable limits.  Some bows can't be shot nearly as long as others.  And I think that shooting different styles helps improve overall technique, just like cross training improves an athlete.  But, focusing on too many things (in effect, lacking focus) is never going to result in expertise.
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: Bladepeek on January 22, 2018, 01:50:00 PM
Theoretically, one bow, one gun and one knife is all I need.

Right   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: Wheels2 on January 22, 2018, 01:56:00 PM
I have one riser and different poundage limbs.
I have to shoot different spine arrows for each and have them set up so that the gpp on each is almost the same resulting in little speed difference.
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: mcgroundstalker on January 22, 2018, 02:12:00 PM
I'm a firm believer in who ever dies with the most toys, wins! That being said:

I like to shoot the same bow all year... Then, after hunting season ends, choose another off my rack and stick with it... Feels like a new bow and I didn't have to buy it...   :rolleyes:  aka "Happy Wife, Happy Life."

... mike ...   :archer2:   ...
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: Duncan on January 22, 2018, 11:19:00 PM
I can switch between most bows without any accuracy problems. The exception is my Hill bows.  It takes some practice shots to dial in after shooting recurves but usually not a big deal. Fatigue robs me of accuracy more than anything else.
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: mwosborn on January 22, 2018, 11:51:00 PM
I like making a bow and then hunting with it until I shoot a deer.  Then I move on to the next bow.
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: A Lex on January 23, 2018, 01:59:00 AM
Based purely on my shooting experience only, I voted one bow. But I do agree that accuracy is the shooter, not the bow. Bow certainly helps, but it won't work without someone to pull the string.

I've got only two bows, both Blackwidow longbows, identical other than draw weight and woods, and I  can swap back and forth between them no problems.

Pick up either of my son's longbows or my mates recurve and I can hardly hit squat.

If I persevere with a different bow long enough, my brain eventually seems to work it out, and I end up shooting it better. But it takes quite a while though.

My hat's off to those of you who can pick up any bow and straight up shoot it well. That's a skill.

Best

Lex
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: on January 26, 2018, 06:46:00 AM
The very best archers in the world have one bow (or multiples of the same bow) for each discipline.  At the upper echelons of competition, consistency is everything.  Not so much for hunting accuracy and distances.
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: DeerSpotter on January 26, 2018, 12:44:00 PM
I just hate making decisions !!!  

I've been a one bow person because of discipline.  You have to get to know how the bow, functions in many different situations.  One bow is just more easier to master.  I just wish I was better at.

I just cleaned out my information file on all my bows !  WOW !  The things a guy can collect in trying to figure out what bow will work "perfectly"  when all the time it's usually operator error !  

And one bow just helps you narrow things down quicker.

BUT I have two one is a lower poundage for developing form and accuracy. But I just read on the thread, accuracy is better developed with more poundage !  That might take me a while to figure that one out.


  >>>------------>      Carl
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: on January 26, 2018, 03:03:00 PM
You can have as many bows as you want as long as you can shoot them all with the same form and tempo.  It would not work so good, if you were planning on hunting with a Hill longbow, so you practice all year with a tricked out target bow and grab the Hill longbow on opening day.  On certain archery forums, familiarity often breeds contempt, but with traditional bows, familiarity insures confidence.
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: mgf on January 27, 2018, 05:29:00 AM
I doubt that there is any causal relationship between the number of bows a person owns (how wealthy or materialistic) and how well they can shoot.
Title: Re: One Bow?
Post by: Hermon on January 27, 2018, 07:39:00 AM
It is the archer, not the number of bows, IMHO.
I think it was the second year of the shoot in Cloverdale, a bunch of us went there.  One guy in our group was relatively new to traditional archery.  He spent a lot of time on the practice range trying out bows.  I remember him with 3-4 bows, probably 2 dozen different (spine, length, weight, etc) arrows that he brought and borrowing arrows arrows from some of us while we waited for everyone to finish shooting so that he could go pull arrows.  It didn't matter what bow or arrow he was shooting, he was just hammering the kill zone.  It was really something to watch.  Proved to me that it is the person.