I am finally taking the dive into wood arrows and I really want to just buy the shafts and do everything else myself. As for fletching jigs what are my best options? I want something that will work very adequately but not necessarily spend a fortune unless that's the only way to go. Also I don't know much about helical and how much it make a a difference. Thank you!
I like BPE. Bitenzberger is the best,but they are about twice the money.
I have left,right,and straight clamps. I've started shooting four fletch helical. It puts a nice spin on the arrow.
In my opinion don't mess with the others, just buy a used Bitzenburger and be done with it. You won't be disappointed. I like a pretty good amount of helical on my arrows. It seems to help stabilize the arrow a little faster.
John
Look at Grayling jigs. Very affordable, even with additional clamps. I stopped using my Jo-Jan after I got the Grayling. And I shoot 4-fletch with all the helical the jig can give. Love them.
QuoteOriginally posted by bucknut:
In my opinion don't mess with the others, just buy a used Bitzenburger and be done with it. You won't be disappointed. I like a pretty good amount of helical on my arrows. It seems to help stabilize the arrow a little faster.
John
I agree with what John stated. Go ahead and buy the best one and be done with it. A good jig will last a lifetime, and turn out a quality job. Bitz it is!
Bitzenburger all the way.
Of course I will recommend the ones I have. I have two Blitz's and two JoJan multi Fletchers. They were all bought used by the way. They both have their own plus and minus. Both have a learning curve. But I have had them for 40 years+. Both companies offer excellent customer service as well.
But like the man said above, find used one first no matter what one you want to try.
I had a Grayling and used it for years. It worked well enough and was affordable.
But then I got a Bitzenburger for Christmas several years back and its fantastic. The Grayling is very similar to the Bitz as far as function and adjustability. But the Bitz is much better made and easily adjustable.
Either will work, but if you have the coin go for a Bitz. You will only ever have to buy it once. And if you ever bail out of archery, you can sell it and recoup a bit of your investment.
Bitzenburger are my favorite, and Helical clamp. Go to their website and understand the features and options. I would not recommend another, but would try a Martin, or Bohning if you find a good one. Check the classifieds, here and others. Check dealers inventory.
The Bitz is better, one feather at a time. The JO-Jan can lay down feathers just as well, but it takes a bit of experience. Some years I make four or five dozen arrows. A single Bitz would take me all summer. I really screwed up years back when an archery shop shut down and had Bitz jigs 12 up on lazy susans. I was sick when I heard that the whole works sold for $50.
Nothing but Bitz here,if you want a Jojan get on the stick as they shutdown a few months back.
Terry
Bitzenburger Helical. Precise, adjustable, repeatable, and will last for a long time....
Linked, good for you getting into making your own arrows. Bits are the best. But everything that is better than the rest just cost more. If you want to not invest a bunch to see if like making arrows you can always look for a deal on used. Or go with another type of jig. I've got 1 or 2 of the Bear Paw jigs. They work just fine. It's Christmas...if you want I'll send them to you at n/c you just pay the freight. PM me with your shipping address and I'll get it out to you so you can get on with it!
QuoteOriginally posted by snag:
Linked, good for you getting into making your own arrows. Bits are the best. But everything that is better than the rest just cost more. If you want to not invest a bunch to see if like making arrows you can always look for a deal on used. Or go with another type of jig. I've got 1 or 2 of the Bear Paw jigs. They work just fine. It's Christmas...if you want I'll send them to you at n/c you just pay the freight. PM me with your shipping address and I'll get it out to you so you can get on with it!
That's awesome of you Snag! :clapper:
The Bitzenbergers are fine jugs, but I have better things to do with my time, so I use and prefer JoJan! I hate to hear they went out of business!
With a Bitz, it takes 12hrs to fletch one dz arrows. With the 2 JoJan multifletchers I have, I can fletch a dz arrows in just over an hour!! And I have about the same $$$ in two used JoJans that it would cost to buy one new Bitz.
Kudos to you Snag, for helping a brother out!!!!!
Bisch
I started out with one Bitz, I would fletch arrows while watching TV and the process didn't seem all that slow.
Then I bought another used one off fleabay, then another and another so I decided to make a lazy susan.
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I always looked for bargains when buying the jigs but did end up buying a bunch of LW nock receivers because my bargain basement jigs might have any kind of receivers in them.
What Bisch said. I ave had my JoJan for 18 years and it is still like new.
I liked the Bitzenburger ok, but much prefer the bearpaw. Only negative to bearpaw is the plastic clamps aren't as easy to clean the glue off of like the metal bitz jigs.
QuoteOriginally posted by Biathlonman:
I liked the Bitzenburger ok, but much prefer the bearpaw. Only negative to bearpaw is the plastic clamps aren't as easy to clean the glue off of like the metal bitz jigs.
I saw 3rivers has a tape you can put on your clamps that makes glue clean up easier. Also, a bath in acetone will clean up any CA glue (not sure what to use with other glues).
I got a Goat Tuff fletching jig that was on sale at a sporting goods store that I had store credit at... I would not purchase again, but it is usable. I'm now trying to keep an eye open for a used Bitz.
Have used a JoJan multi fletcher I bought many decades ago and bought another one just two years ago. Takes a while to set up since I shoot many different arrows for all my bows, but they're bomb proof and do a good job. Keep a spare single one in my tackle box.
Bitz. What's $20.00 in the long run? You will never need another jig and it will outlast you and probably your grandkids as well.
If speed is a concern, the Bohning fletch tape is as fast as it gets. You can apply on three feathers in the time it takes one feather to set up in a Jo-Jan.
Bear paw make a sweet clamp with a nice hard helical
Bearpaw for me. Have Bitzenbergers but like Bearpaw better.
I used the grayling type for about 20 years. Just bought a bitz and it is the cat's a$$.
Forget about the multi fletchers unless youre going into the arrow making business. The plastic models will do the job, but if youre in this for the long haul, like my youll likely end up with a biz eventually--- my stubbornness took me 20 years to make the switch.
I'm going to be the sole dissenting voice in the wilderness...
I use the Vador jig. The design, like most jigs, is similar to the Bitz but it's injection molded plastic. I have a table of twelve of these jigs and used them pretty frequently when I had a small arrow business. No problems.
I've tried a Bitz, got it used somewhere, but I didn't care for it. The Bohning Classic nocks I use won't fit into the nock receiver unless I drill it out.
Glue sticking to the clamp, I don't use so much glue that it squishes out that badly. When I was learning I did and it pops right off the clamp, no worries.
I don't adjust the jigs with a hammer and a chisel so I don't see any reason why they won't last for a couple more decades, they've already gone through one.
One Bitz clamp costs as much as one complete Vador jig. The math was easy for me.
As always, Your Mileage May Vary.
Guy
I use a fingernail clipper to lower the indexer on a Bohning nock, one quick snip and the nock goes right in a bitz receiver. You still have the indexer on the nock but it is much lower.
QuoteOriginally posted by Eric Krewson:
I use a fingernail clipper to lower the indexer on a Bohning nock, one quick snip and the nock goes right in a bitz receiver. You still have the indexer on the nock but it is much lower.
Ditto. I have a tiny pocketknife blade that will peel the indexer right off with one pass.
Those are good fixes for the nock not fitting into the receiver. They'd be great for limited production of wood arrows. Truthfully, I cringe at the prospect of doing that for every nock I used when I was producing orders.
As for drilling it out, I really feel that the most popular jig should be ready to use with one of the most popular nocks.
Guy
QuoteOriginally posted by Grey Taylor:
Those are good fixes for the nock not fitting into the receiver. They'd be great for limited production of wood arrows. Truthfully, I cringe at the prospect of doing that for every nock I used when I was producing orders.
As for drilling it out, I really feel that the most popular jig should be ready to use with one of the most popular nocks.
Guy
I agree on two points; 1) it would be a major PITA to have to trim production orders (I build arrows a half-dozen at a time on a snail's pace) and; 2) You should not have to modify a $90.00 jig.
That being said, the Marco Snap-On nocks fit the Bitz without any modification to the jig or the nocks.
I don't think you can beat a JoJan Multi Fletch. I've used one for many years and have been totally satisfied. I don't know how they handle modern shafting but for commercial and home made wood shafting and cane and hardwood shoot arrows it does the job well. As far as cost I don't know. My JoJan was given to me by a friend years ago and he received it from an old timer so it's probably 60 years old...and still works just fine.
Call me crazy but I use a cheap Bohning plastic jig. I give a swipe or two of wax (same stuff I use on bowstrings, boots, etc.) about every 2-3 feathers to keep the glue from building up. At my volume of 1-2 doz per year, it doesn't make any sense to invest in anything fancy. Plenty of helical to straighten things out. No complaints. No frills. But only half the cost.
Takes longer than a full setup of 6 jigs. But it only takes a minute to set a feather & then I can do something else. It's one of those things that I do throughout a day or two of yard work or housekeeping chores.
Bitzenberger.
I am neither an artist nor an artisan, but I have made good arrows with both my Grayling and the Bitz.