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Title: Catching up and coyotes...
Post by: Jerry Russell on December 11, 2017, 08:06:00 AM
With the whole photobucket thing I simply got lazy about posting much because I couldn't figure out a new picture platform.  Well, I THINK I have it figured out.  I hope so because we have been busy with hogs, deer, caribou and more.  

Now let me test this thing out, lol.  

While deer, bear and hog hunting in Georgia I normally get a chance or two at a coyote.  I have taken a few and my experience shows that the closer they live to humans, the bigger they are.  I would think that access to pet food, live stock etc. causes this.  

I had this big red yote come in while deer hunting and made a perfect shot as he walked a big fallen log.  He weighed a conservative 60-65 pounds.  I have killed just one that was bigger.  

  (https://i.imgur.com/K6YjujQ.jpg)
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Post by: KAZ on December 11, 2017, 08:47:00 AM
Very nice   :thumbsup:  Well done   :campfire:
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Post by: smokin joe on December 11, 2017, 08:48:00 AM
That is a really big coyote, Jerry. He looks to be mature and the pelt looks to be pretty good too. They are getting more and more common, and they offer a good hunting opportunity. Calling one into range is one of the best challenges in trad bowhunting, in my opinion. They are not easy to get into range.
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Post by: BrushWolf on December 11, 2017, 09:01:00 AM
Nice job Jerry!
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Post by: monterey on December 11, 2017, 09:17:00 AM
Good work right there.  That Georgia coyote looks a lot different than our western ones.  Never have seen so much red fur as that.  Wonder if it's mixed up with those non-existent wolves I've heard about?
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Post by: Jerry Russell on December 11, 2017, 09:24:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by monterey:
Good work right there.  That Georgia coyote looks a lot different than our western ones.  Never have seen so much red fur as that.  Wonder if it's mixed up with those non-existent wolves I've heard about?
I have chased coyotes all over the US and they really do seem to be totally different species from West to East.  The western coyotes are much smaller and very much easier to call in.  These big Eastern dogs will often turn inside out at a mouse squeak to stop them for a shot.  Very smart critters.
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Post by: David McLendon on December 11, 2017, 09:28:00 AM
Nice Yote...
Tell me a little about your arrow when you have the time, I see that you are using a shorter feather. I shoot 160 gr broadheads and 5" fletch, I feel like I could afford to cut back on the tail feathers some.
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Post by: smokin joe on December 11, 2017, 09:29:00 AM
I have read some research that indicated that the Eastern Coyotes have bred with the Eastern Red Wolf and the influence of the red wolf blood lines have produced larger coyotes with a more red look.

I would bet that your coyote is one with some red wolf blood somewhere in his background.
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Post by: smokin joe on December 11, 2017, 09:32:00 AM
I killed one a few seasons ago. The last squeak I gave it was when it was about 80 yards way, and that was a pretty quiet squeak. The coyote looked up and slowly, and I mean slowly, worked her way in.

You are correct, they are really spooky.

Congrats on one of the best trophies in trad hunting.
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Post by: The Whittler on December 11, 2017, 09:41:00 AM
Do you eat them, how do they taste.
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Post by: Jerry Russell on December 11, 2017, 09:44:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by The Whittler:
Do you eat them, how do they taste.
No.  I don't eat dogs.
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Post by: smokin joe on December 11, 2017, 09:50:00 AM
Using the meat as coyote hunting bait works pretty well.
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Post by: Jerry Russell on December 11, 2017, 09:55:00 AM
I did skin him out cased for use as a quiver.  I just need to find someone that can tan it.
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Post by: smokin joe on December 11, 2017, 10:00:00 AM
I take mine to a regular local taxidermist to get tanned. That's pretty reliable.
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Post by: Jerry Russell on December 11, 2017, 10:28:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by David McLendon:
Nice Yote...
Tell me a little about your arrow when you have the time, I see that you are using a shorter feather. I shoot 160 gr broadheads and 5" fletch, I feel like I could afford to cut back on the tail feathers some.
The arrows are GT 5575 with 100gr inserts. Broadheads are somewhere between 100-150.  The 2" fletch make a big difference in arrow speed and I love them. When hunting open country game like caribou that extra speed really helps.  

I could never go back to 4 or 5 inch fletch.
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Post by: David McLendon on December 11, 2017, 07:34:00 PM
I imagine my 5" is like riding the brakes compared to your 2's, I like a heavier arrow so if I can get back a little with less feather they should be a little flatter.
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Post by: David McLendon on December 11, 2017, 07:40:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by monterey:
Good work right there.  That Georgia coyote looks a lot different than our western ones.  Never have seen so much red fur as that.  Wonder if it's mixed up with those non-existent wolves I've heard about?
Red Wolves are not non-existent, they are in Eastern North Carolina. They are endangered and the US Fish & Wildlife Service has a study area in two locations I believe with Red Wolves in containment. There is also a wild population in that area of the state. You'll see the big red Coyotes there as well.
https://www.fws.gov/redwolf/
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Post by: jcar315 on December 11, 2017, 07:42:00 PM
Well done Sir!
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Post by: SAM E. STEPHENS on December 11, 2017, 08:00:00 PM
Nice yote....

,,Sam,,
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Post by: fmscan on December 11, 2017, 08:14:00 PM
Jerry, Great looking yote, so big and color is so unique. DNA test would be a story. Looking forward to meeting you this coming June for Bear in Canada.
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Post by: monterey on December 11, 2017, 10:55:00 PM
David, thanks for that info and link.  Very interesting stuff.  My understanding was completely inacurate.
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Post by: Hud on December 11, 2017, 11:08:00 PM
Congrats on a nice Yote. Out west, they like house pets and I suspect they are no different back east.
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Post by: David McLendon on December 12, 2017, 11:25:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Hud:
Congrats on a nice Yote. Out west, they like house pets and I suspect they are no different back east.
Same in the East, people keep their dogs up if they want to keep them and you don't see many stray cats at all. Last week a big boar Coon ( 15+ pounds)was hit in the road out front and made it to my driveway. I had planned to remove it next day as it was trash pick up day, but next morning he was gone with lots of Coyote tracks in the sand.
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Post by: Etter on December 12, 2017, 12:55:00 PM
The studies they have done on Eastern Coyotes are pretty interesting. It seems that as they expanded from the West to fill the void left by the removal of "most" red wolves, they readily bred with the remaining few that were here and some donestic dogs. This is where they got their larger size and variety of colors. They are completely different creatures from the coyotes Ive seen in texas, arizona, colorado, and idaho.
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Post by: Jerry Russell on December 12, 2017, 01:32:00 PM
A question for the Western hunters...

Do you have the solid black coyotes like we have in the East?
I don't mean a darker version, I mean jet black.  

They are pretty common here in Georgia.
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Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on December 12, 2017, 02:10:00 PM
Congrats Jerry. The dogs out east are far larger than ones I've seen Wisconsin-west
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Post by: monterey on December 12, 2017, 06:36:00 PM
I've seen one very black one over many years.  Ours are more gray with sometimes a bit of reddish.  Not real easy to call in most areas.  I think they get called to a lot.

When I called in Texas I was surprised at how readily they came in.
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Post by: DeerSpotter on December 15, 2017, 04:12:00 PM
Maybe because the dogs out east don't have wolves to deal with  ! so they eat more.     :bigsmyl:
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Post by: vintage-bears on December 16, 2017, 09:18:00 AM
Great job!
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Post by: Terry Green on December 17, 2017, 07:16:00 PM
:thumbsup:    :help   :thumbsup: