I'm looking for some kind of mid layering top and bottom to cut the wind.
Seems everyday is windy anymore and I'm freezing my butt off. I want something I can put under some leafy wear or my wool plaids. Any suggestions?
Thanks
Jason
Golf windshirt.
The Asbell High Neck Fleece Wind Blocker Vest is incredible.... Higher neck in the Back, lower in the front, can be rolled down if desired.... Will absolutely take your existing Jacket/vest to another level....
Thanks,
How bout the bottoms?
Just remember, the closer you put the "wind blocker" to your skin the less effective it is.
Just remember, the closer you put the "wind blocker" to your skin the less effective it is.
QuoteOriginally posted by KAZ:
The Asbell High Neck Fleece Wind Blocker Vest is incredible.... Higher neck in the Back, lower in the front, can be rolled down if desired.... Will absolutely take your existing Jacket/vest to another level....
X2!
Love mine and I have an Asbell wind blocker vest as well. Both are in my bag every time I go out.
Wouldn't it be more effective to have the wind block layer over the wool? What good is the insulation after the cold wind has passed through it?
Yes, and as much as I love it, there in lies the problem with wool.
I'm sure the Wind Blocker layer would be best on the outside, however l've had great performance with it immediately under my Asbell Wool Products... Then I get the camo/Light absorbing wool on the outside... I have an Evening Stand Green Mackinaw Pullover with the Cape/hood, plus I have an Evening Stand Brown Hoodless vest I can wear alone or between the Mackinaw Pullover & Cape that works nice... This system is very versatile and with Under Armor Cold Gear &/Or Merino Wool Underlayers it's pretty warm... I've even doubled up the Fleece Wind Blocker vest on really cold days, wow that's warm...
What I was referring too is exactly what KAZ said, just under the outer layer. Merino wool will be next to my skin, just need something to break the wind and not spend a crazy amount of money.
Thanks
I've done the golf wind breaker top and bottom under my wool and My rain gear is a suede and very quiet, I've used it a lot over my wool and it works best with no noise. The wind breaker setup is good, though just not quite as good as the rain gear.
A golf windshirt works well right under my wool jacket, but over my merino base layer and a merino wool sweater. If it's really windy, Cabela's sells a windblocker sweater that replaces my standard wool jacket. You may have to look in the waterfowling section to find it.
I have a rain suit by Herters (I believe) that I got at Cabelas for about $60 on sale. It is soft almost like a microfleece on the outside and quiet while the inner layer is kind of plasticy like a windbreaker material of sorts. It blocks wind like a mad dog and doubles as a rain layer as needed. The last time I went shopping for a "windproof" layer I put my hand on the back side of the sleeves of various garments and just blew right through the cloth. I figured if I can blow through it so can wind. The only things that I found that I couldn't blow right through were the rain coats.
I've found that in most winter weather here in Arkansas, having that on adds more warmth for the weight/bulk than any other garment I've ever owned or tried. I don't really think it in and of itself has much if any insulating properties but the windproof barrier helps to keep my body heat against my body and from escaping unlike what happens in fleece, wool, down, etc. For the majority of the season I'm comfortable in just a tshirt, button up, fleece vest, and my rain jacket up top and a pair of pants and rain pants down bottom. Its truly incredible how much less clothing you need when the drafts can't rob you of heat.
It does sound like some of you get it. Think of how a house is built. The tyvek wrap goes on the outside to keep the wind away from the insulation. Your clothes should do the same.
I have an original Scent Lok suit that was worn as an under garment. If you can find one you can't get a better wind breaker. It is absolutely quiet and who knows, it may even help with scent control.
Wool doesn't reflect light like synthetic, it's warm and quiet and all, but definitely sucks in wind if you're sitting. So I decided to make my own :D I bought material and goretex. I have not been happy with what's available at any outlet. Outer layer wool, then goretex then my warm layers..
Sounds like a great way to go Overspined.
It really depends on the wool fabric. Most wool in the US us loosely woven fabric. Mostly blanket style wool. Fluffy insulator but open to wind.
Loden wool fabric is way different. And Loden is not the synonym for green.
QuoteOriginally posted by BAK:
It does sound like some of you get it. Think of how a house is built. The tyvek wrap goes on the outside to keep the wind away from the insulation. Your clothes should do the same.
You are right, but the tyvek goes under the siding. I'm looking for a wind blocker and still be able keep that curb appeal! :0)
Yes, LOL, you do still need something to protect the wind barrier.
I just hear so many guys talking about how many layers of wool they put on, yet have nothing to keep the wind from sucking the warm air layer away from their skin.
Depending where you hunt, one normally needs a "wear layer" on the outside. The wear layer can be camo, needs to be quiet and have pockets for immediate access. I normally use a poly cotton jacket fir that. Does not pick up sticker burrs, protects the more delicate insulation layers underneath. Windbreaker should be worn right below the wear layer. Than as many insulation layers as you require.
Mountain loden fabric is windproof to at least 50mph Wind. It is traditional German/ European hunting clothes fabric. It is also highly water resistant.
It is not cheap like blanket wool, but not excessively expensive. Right around $42 a yard and about 4ft 8" to 5' wide.
Loden Friedl in Bavaria for example.70% sheep wool and 39% Alpaka.
I've worn wool outer clothes for a lot of years, and still do when it's not windy.
By putting a wind blocker under the outside layer of wool, one still has the quietness of wool, but the insulating value of the outside layer is pretty much lost in a wind.
My first and, when needed, second layer from the skin are always wool to take advantage of its excellent insulating value.
But when it's windy, I switch to synthetic wind blocking outer clothes
I layer in this order.
1. Base layer ( soon to be merino wool hopefully )
2. Some goodwill wool I picked up
3. a wind blocker top and bottom ( still looking for that one )
4. Surplus camo outer layer.
As you all can tell, I'm cheap! I cannot get myself to pay five hundred dollars for hunting clothes. Everything I have probably cost less than a hundred bucks.