I have never owned a BW before. I have hunted with a bear grizzly forever. I've had other custom bows in the past but I have always shot the grizzly better. I am seriously considering a 58" pch.
someone please give me pros and cons over the bear...
im a 29" draw if that is a factor to consider
Call Roger and do a test drive. You will see.
There are no cons....I've had every bow imaginable but when it's time to hunt I grab my 58" pch...it's a hunting machine
No down side what so ever to a widda
I had two, they were very good bows. Probably some of the best. No problems at all. I kinda wish I kept one of them. If you want one you won't shake it so get one!!
I found they were just a little heavier to carry than I cared for and have gone in the opposite direction preferring the slim lightness of a one pc rf/df long bow.
Tedd
at least I can tell the wife I tried to not spend the money right? haha
thanks fellas :)
Not trying to talk you out of the BW but a Grizzly is Damn fine bow.
Really nice hunting bows. Very versatile and they have a great shooting platform, as well as a great company backing them up.
One of the best bows I've ever owned. The only reason that I got rid of mine was because I won a free Widow for biggest bear in camp. I chose a KB which is another great bow. I'm sorry that I sold my PCH. No real cons
Sean, how do you like the KB compared to the PCH?
Great shooting bows, short sight window and longer limbs means smooth.
Terry
Both the PCH and KB are sweet bows for sure... :goldtooth:
He is correct about the short sight window. I forgot but do recall an occasional blocked arrow flight/impact.
Tedd
QuoteOriginally posted by jkm97:
Sean, how do you like the KB compared to the PCH?
It's pretty close for me. The KB is lighter mass weight but the PCH being a take down makes it more convenient. Love them both
Ive owned a good many bows since going traditional from metal risers like the pse coyote to bear grizzly's, zipper, kanati, black canyon, damon howatt, samick, etc etc. Ive stopped messing around with anything but widows. I currently own a 60" PA and a 60"PTF. The ptf has become my go to bow. To me, widows are just better than anything else out there (for me). I love the high mass weight, heavy pre load, smooth draw, and high brace height. Plus they absolutely slam a heavy arrow into a target. The asbell grip is my favorite btw
A bit heavier in the hand compared to your Bear, other than that both good bows. Every PCH I ever shot I shot well. I do like a lighter bow in mass but that is just me.
I had one made from Black and White Ebony and was the best looking bow I ever owned, but the sight window was a little short for me so I sold it. I had a curly maple PAX that I shot much better and wound up selling that to Blueridge. The bow that I have kept and will keep is my Tall Tines.
As Stan stated, I'd call and get a test drive bow and know for sure before I spent money.
I have a PCH and a KB. Absolutely the finest quality recurves I have ever owned.
You cannot go wrong. Great product, great company, great folks running it.
By the way, I highly recommend the Asbell grip. Fits me like a glove.
Try to shoot one first. I have shot and owned a lot of different bows including widows. They are a great quality bow but I have yet to find one I like. They just don't fit me right. They sure are making some good looking ones.
I never cared for the looks of them. The risers look to big. But I decided to shoot some at Denton Hill this summer to see what the big following was about. I shot a 62" PAS. Carrying it out to the practice range I thought man this is heavy. Didn't like that. Then I shot it. Shot 7 arrows and pulled them out with one hand. I looked at my buddy and said" what's up with that? I don't shoot that good." He said it's the mass weight. Now I'm saving my money. I shot several of their bows. I liked them all but I kept going back to the PAS. I'm still not sure I can be happy with that heavy of a bow. I might call and do,a test run for a week before I drop $1100.
Do,you widow guys mind that weight?
im going to do the test run deal for sure. I gotta say, I absolutely LOVE both of my grizzly bows. But there's always been an allure to black widow for me.
I shot Widow recurves for a lot of years, but shoot the Widow longbows now because I prefer less mass weight. You can order a Widow without the phenolic in the riser and limb wedges which would lighten it some and I believe the Widow boys will "dehorn" the riser as well. Add a low wrist grip (my preference) with the above mentioned modifications and I believe you would shave off a good bit of weight. If I was to order a bow today it would be a 60" PSA with these mods. Enjoy your test drive! Mike
Well, I'm not going to be much help to you either... In talking you down any way... I'm more apt to talk you into the Widow... I've got a longer draw, right at 30", and that will be the biggest difference you will see between the Grizzly and the PCH. At your 29" draw a 58" PCH will be butter smooth!
When I made the final switch to traditional in 2000 it was a SA III that did it for me. I've had a lot of different bows over the years, but the SA/PSA will always be my "standard" that all others are compared.
Recently I've also fallen for the PCH, little more compact overall package which is conducive to a hunting bow... Here are the three I have now, a PSA, and 2 PCHs and the one PCH has two sets of limbs...
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Low grips on all... My personal preference...
(http://i.imgur.com/VRahoHx.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/aKw6WEM.jpg)
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And they make meat when asked... ;) First one this year...
(http://i.imgur.com/K98rRZJ.jpg)
My PCH is one of my three all time favorite bows.
Will not sell mine, I love the weight, it's a good looking bow, and it shoots very well.
Shot my first trad deer with it this year, its only 40 at 28, and I am using a 440 grain arrow moving at 165 fps, not super fast but it does the job, passed thru and stuck halfway up the broadhead in the tree the deer was standing in front of.
Try it, you will most likely buy it!
Don't think you can go wrong with a Widow. Great bows !!!
QuoteOriginally posted by Jim Keller:
I never cared for the looks of them. The risers look to big. But I decided to shoot some at Denton Hill this summer to see what the big following was about. I shot a 62" PAS. Carrying it out to the practice range I thought man this is heavy. Didn't like that. Then I shot it. Shot 7 arrows and pulled them out with one hand. I looked at my buddy and said" what's up with that? I don't shoot that good." He said it's the mass weight. Now I'm saving my money. I shot several of their bows. I liked them all but I kept going back to the PAS. I'm still not sure I can be happy with that heavy of a bow. I might call and do,a test run for a week before I drop $1100.
Do,you widow guys mind that weight?
Thats a pretty good observation. My TD is obviously heavier than my 1 piece, and it is easier to shoot better for me.
That said, I am dedicating the rest of the season to my 1 piece, it's a beautiful bow and I love the light weight.
I had a 60" one and it was a sweet shooter!
Quite fond of the PCH.
I'm a fan of widows and will likely be ordering a new one. I'm a little different I guess than other guys but I like the bow to have as much mass weight as possible. I move the PMA for this reason. I shoot heavy mass weight bows better. My next bow will likely be a PMA and I'll ask them to make it out of the heaviest woods they can get ahold of. Now this is what I like for whitetail hunting which is primarily what I do. If I were doing a lot of elk hunting or something like that I might want something a little lighter.