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Title: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: Ari_Bonn on October 03, 2017, 10:53:00 AM
What has everyone found in terms of finishes that have the least target burn?
I have tried polyurathane(worst by far),minwax tung(all rubs off and water damage), minwax spar urathane(oil), varathane outdoors oil based and water, varathane proffesional gloss(oil) and bulls eye shellac.

As of now im finding spar urathane is my best bet.
Apparently  Daly's Profin is supposed to work very good on arrows minimum target burn from what I hear.
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: Zradix on October 03, 2017, 11:06:00 AM
I don't normally get target burn...may be that I don't shoot at a "rubber" target with field points....more of a stuffed bag type target.

I do shoot at a layered "rubber foam" target with my broadheads now and then.
I've found a little buffed car wax on the front third of the arrow seems to help with arrow removal and seems to help with keeping the arrow finish nice.
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: Orion on October 03, 2017, 11:22:00 AM
Bohning fletch lac works pretty good for me. It's been around for ages.
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: RIng on October 03, 2017, 04:20:00 PM
after finish is fully cured put a good coat of car wax on your arrows .
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 03, 2017, 05:08:00 PM
I use gasket lacquer with no burn.
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: M60gunner on October 03, 2017, 07:38:00 PM
Only thing I have found that works for me is Pure Tung Oil. I have used all of the above at one time or another plus a couple not mentioned yet. One was so bad I had pieces of straw bale stuck to my shafts. Only downside to the Tung Oil is having to apply a coat once in awhile.
By far my worst experience has been with MinWax waterbased polycrillic. I have to use 0000 steelwool and car wax to remove the stuck on gunk from carpet and foam targets I shoot. Oh yes, I have used various wax products over the finishes mentioned but that  only helps for a couple of shots. I have even used the bar soap trick.
Only shafts I have not had an issue with are those cold aluminums.
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: Woodpuppy on October 03, 2017, 07:45:00 PM
Some targets are worse than others. I don't shoot real heavy weight, but I have a long draw and my arrows tend to be fat. They get deep penetration in foam targets, and the more rubbery ones really stick making arrows very difficult to pull.

A friend provided a slick solution to that problem. About 6" 3/4" pvc tube with caps, roll up something absorbent (I used automotive carpet) to slide inside the tube. Drill a hole in one of the caps slightly bigger than your arrow/point combo. Squirt Armor-all or similar into the tube. Wipe arrows before shooting them into foam targets. Easy peasy.
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: LostNation_Larry on October 03, 2017, 09:54:00 PM
I have pretty good luck with gasket lacquer.  It is rare that I have target burn.  Rare, but it still happens from time to time.
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: Stumpkiller on October 03, 2017, 10:58:00 PM
I use Minwax wipe on poly and then periodically buff the shafts with BriWax (beeswax/carnuba).  Paste wax   burned (and the straw melted into it from bales).  Not so with the BriWax.
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: R.V.T.B. on October 04, 2017, 05:59:00 AM
I shoot into compressed celotex bales at our club and they make a mess of wooden shafts.  The only thing that I have used that doesn't stick and doesn't give much target burn is Bohnings Super coat.
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: Bill Carlsen on October 04, 2017, 08:09:00 AM
When  I was making custom arrows  I used high gloss Minwax solvent base poly, thinned about 2:1  or 3:1 with paint thinner. Always got inquiries about the finish...tough, durable and no target burn issues.
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: Terry Green on October 04, 2017, 10:39:00 AM
Sorry...I'm not sure why this one got moved...its NOT about shooting..its about arrows.

Carry on....
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: Bob Abeln on October 04, 2017, 10:59:00 AM
Rub your arrow with bar soap the last 5" from the point.Makes pulling arrows much easier.
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: Tim Finley on October 04, 2017, 11:20:00 AM
I use Armor-all works good, tung oil is a poor finish for arrows or bows its not water proof enough its more for furniture .
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: Tim Finley on October 04, 2017, 11:22:00 AM
I should say armor-all over Zar poly . Not Armor-all alone as a finish .
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: Ari_Bonn on October 05, 2017, 06:38:00 AM
Used tung before,  very wet environment over here and they became water damaged.
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 05, 2017, 07:57:00 AM
Tung oil is water repellent, not waterproof.
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: TradBrewSC on October 05, 2017, 08:56:00 AM
its been a while since I have made any wood arrows but thinking about getting back into it.

back in the day I had good success with multiple dips of polycrylic.

I would typically do 3-4 dips while steel wooling between each one. on the last coat I would just brush off the glare with steel wool..

Other woody experts may have something better but that was the best thing I found in terms of wear and tear back them.
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: Ari_Bonn on October 05, 2017, 12:00:00 PM
I am currently using minwax spar urathane thinned 50/50 with paint thinner, Likeing the results so far.

Anyone tried tru oil?
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: Woodpuppy on October 05, 2017, 01:00:00 PM
Snapped a couple pics of my arrow wiper...

 (http://i.imgur.com/L8umC66.jpg)

 (http://i.imgur.com/kZDYN2u.jpg)
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: Bud B. on October 05, 2017, 04:05:00 PM
I dip my wood shafts in a 50/50 mix of Minwax oil poly gloss, not the wipe on stuff, and low odor mineral spirits. Dip twice, then steel wool rubdown, then one more dip.

Not one bit of target burn problem.
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: AkDan on October 06, 2017, 09:13:00 AM
Epoxy!    

I have used dalys for a long time now, it burns!   But i like it, since developing a epoxy sensitivity.  

Gl would be a close second to epoxy, if it wouldnt crack!    It does not do well in my environment!  

Theres no such thing as waterproof finishes.   Only vary degrees of water resistant.  Some do much better than others obviously!   That said epoxy comes pretty close!   It has by far out lived all my other concoctions over the years.
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: Gordon Jabben on October 06, 2017, 03:12:00 PM
Gasket Lacquer also
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: WESTBROOK on October 06, 2017, 08:49:00 PM
Thinned minwax oil based poly or Daly's pro-fin both work well for me. Daly's is hard to get here, so I use the minwax.
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: paradocs on October 07, 2017, 07:50:00 AM
Eclipse makes a field point called a Chubby Bunny that has a "waist" that is larger diameter than the arrow shaft.  Limits penetration in foam and seems to open the hole just enough to protect the finish.  Only 125 and 145 grain weights, though.
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: BAK on October 07, 2017, 10:42:00 AM
Lacquer
Title: Re: wood arrows and target burn
Post by: Woodpuppy on October 07, 2017, 01:20:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by paradocs:
Eclipse makes a field point called a Chubby Bunny that has a "waist" that is larger diameter than the arrow shaft.  Limits penetration in foam and seems to open the hole just enough to protect the finish.  Only 125 and 145 grain weights, though.
For those with aluminum or carbon arrows that stick, Goldtip's EZ Pull points look like they do the same thing. Haven't tried them myself, I use Saunders combo points in heavier weights than the EZ Pull points.

  https://www.goldtip.com/Components/Points/EZ-Pull-Point-246.aspx