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Title: Woodsman broadheads
Post by: Ari_Bonn on September 24, 2017, 05:51:00 PM
Not hunting this year due to a shoulder injury putting a lot of thought into my set up for next year.   Bow will be a medium R/D longbow 40#@27" will be using GT trad shafts a 50gr insert and 145gr point roughly 470 total weight.

I was originally opting for a 2 blade but I have been trying to decide if I would have enough power to use a 3 blade instead.
Any advice or foresight would be much appreciated, thank you.
Title: Re: Woodsman broadheads
Post by: Ari_Bonn on September 24, 2017, 05:53:00 PM
Sorry double
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Post by: macbow on September 24, 2017, 06:03:00 PM
If you put it in the ribs no problem with a 3 blade like the woodsmans.
Title: Re: Woodsman broadheads
Post by: Terry Green on September 25, 2017, 10:56:00 AM
What do you plan on hunting with this set up?
Title: Re: Woodsman broadheads
Post by: Zradix on September 26, 2017, 11:58:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:
What do you plan on hunting with this set up?
x2

If I was going to hunt DEER with that setup and a 3 blade I'd get em close...otherwise I'd use a heavier VPA type 3 blade, learn the trajectory and extend my range a bit.

You'd probably be ok...but if I was going out with a 27" draw at 40# I'd go with something like a Zwickey with a heavy insert.
Title: Re: Woodsman broadheads
Post by: BOHO on September 26, 2017, 12:48:00 PM
It's more about accuracy. Make sure they are sharp and placement is good and you'll be fine.
Title: Re: Woodsman broadheads
Post by: Ari_Bonn on September 27, 2017, 01:35:00 AM
Deer from the ground. Sorry for late reply.
Title: Re: Woodsman broadheads
Post by: Ari_Bonn on September 27, 2017, 01:35:00 AM
Deer from the ground. Sorry for late reply.
Title: Re: Woodsman broadheads
Post by: stonewall on September 27, 2017, 04:42:00 PM
I shoot 44#@26 and 27.5 fir shafts with a 125gr woodsman never had a problem with them.
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Post by: SlowBowinMO on September 27, 2017, 07:43:00 PM
Being on the ground will also help, you get a better shot angle for penetration.  But those Canadian deer can be awful big bodied too.

I personally think you'd be better off with a BIG two blade.  Good compromise and best of both worlds IMO.
Title: Re: Woodsman broadheads
Post by: Gdpolk on September 27, 2017, 09:04:00 PM
I think for deer you'll be fine.  That said, I still prefer a 2-blade even on thin skinned animals like deer.  

I feel like they penetrate better mechanically speaking, can be built more durable at a given point weight (thicker gauge steel on blades from less blades required), and can give a superior sight picture being able to be oriented flat.  While 3 blades cut more and thus cause more bleeding in theory, I've never lost anything due to a 2-blade design not cutting enough and 2-blade designs from flint knapping to Zwickeys to Magnus to VPA's to Grizzlies have all been proven to be extremely effective on about anything that has walked the earth and been shot with a bow.  With that track record (hundreds of years), and the improvements in durability (thicker metal = more durable designs), and the improvements in penetration (Ashby studies), and the improvements in sight picture (my preference) I just really feel well equipped with a 2-blade design and haven't seen the need or desire to shoot a 3 or 4 blade design.
Title: Re: Woodsman broadheads
Post by: batbow on September 28, 2017, 01:11:00 AM
Just took first deer with a black widow recurve set up similar to your plan.
40 lbs at my draw, 430 grain arrow, at 165 fps, total front weight 200 grains with insert n broadhead 20% foc.
Arrow Dynamics stinger PTP tapered orange shafts.
Used a 2 blade eclipse single bevel.
Blew threw the deer and buried half way up the length of the broadhead in a tree behind the deer.This was at 26 yds on level ground.
Deer was down in a measured 35 yds
My only complaint would be the  blood trail,which was sparses(double lung shot).
I would think a woodsman would do well, the only reason I have not used them is they normally whistle for me, and that bothers me.
Wheel bows I always shot three blades G5s and I always had a decent bloodtrail.
Title: Re: Woodsman broadheads
Post by: batbow on September 28, 2017, 01:36:00 AM
This evening filled my second turkey tag using my stalker coyote, 49lbs at my draw.
520 grain arrow on black eagle instinct shafts, eclipse single bevel bh,19% foc
168 fps
This was a long shot, 36 yds, arrow took the turkey high in the vitals, it was down on the spot, but the arrow did not pass completely thru.
Turkeys are tough, the one I got this spring at 21 yds the arrow made it thru, but did not pass out of the bird. The shot was about 1 inch lower than the one today. 45 lb Black river bow, same weight arrow easton axis shaft same bh.
Sorry for the long story, just thought I would share my limited experience with trad equipment.
Yes it was a productive day of hunting, unusual for me, kinda cool that our area is open for archery deer and turkey during the same time, as well archery elk overlaps part of it as well.
No luck there!